Comparing QB's stats...

[Varking]

If you want to talk about numbers, talk about how much easier it is to rack up passing yards when you are playing from behind, or when your defense is off the field quickly because of huge gains they give up. Newton has been great but our poor defense has HELPED his individual statistics.

[Darth Biscuit]

Just at a brief glance... Cam and Dalton are fairly even as passers, Cam and The Golden Calf of Bristol are fairly even as runners, except for the TDs... so in other words, Cam's better than both of them because he's multi-dimensional.

[Mage]

If you want to talk about numbers, talk about how much easier it is to rack up passing yards when you are playing from behind, or when your defense is off the field quickly because of huge gains they give up. Newton has been great but our poor defense has HELPED his individual statistics.

Funny post.

1. Newton has a noticeably higher Y/A than both Dalton and The Golden Calf of Bristol, so it's not just bulk stats he's better than them in. It's efficiency as well.

2. Carolina's defense is barely on the field for any shorter amount of time as Dalton's and the only reason Denver's defense is on the field a lot because Denver's offense is trash. You can't hold it against Newton because he can sustain drives.

[CatMan72]

I think Dalton came out more NFL ready then Cam based on the offense he ran @ TCU vs. the offense Cam ran at Auburn.

I also think Cam has a MUCH higher ceiling then Dalton, and Cam's athleticism brings a dimension to his game that Dalton will never have. Dalton and Cam's "pure" QB stats are very similar and Dalton's previous experience made him much more ready for the NFL, so I think that tells you something right there.

I think The Golden Calf of Bristol-time works as long as the Broncos defense can keep them in the game. The minute a quality opponent jumps out to a lead on them, The Golden Calf of Bristol-time is in trouble. Aside from all that, what The Golden Calf of Bristol has been able to do is incredible - there's no denying that.

[JawnyBlaze]

If you want to talk about numbers, talk about how much easier it is to rack up passing yards when you are playing from behind, or when your defense is off the field quickly because of huge gains they give up. Newton has been great but our poor defense has HELPED his individual statistics.

Except...as I said before we're usually NOT playing from behind, we're leading and give it up late in the game.

[Cyberjag]

Peyton Manning (rookie year)

Games: 16

Completion Percentage: 56.7

Passing Yards: 3,739

Yds/Game: 233.7

Passing TDs: 26

Interceptions: 28

Rushing Yards: 62

Rushing TDs: 0

Total TDs: 26

Rating: 71.2

Colts D:

Average Points: 27.8 (29th)

Average Yards: 364.8 (29th)

Conclusion:

Stats say that Newton is better than Manning, right? :)

[edromeo]

What do you think...homerisms aside???.

I think Cam is on pace to challenge the rookie passing record.

Cam has accounted for a boat load of yardage and points.

Dalton and The Golden Calf of Bristol are having good season too.

If you combined Dalton and The Golden Calf of Bristol it would rival Cam's production.

The Golden Calf of Bristol's lack of turnovers are key to his success.

[Jangler]

Peyton Manning (rookie year)

Games: 16

Completion Percentage: 56.7

Passing Yards: 3,739

Yds/Game: 233.7

Passing TDs: 26

Interceptions: 28

Rushing Yards: 62

Rushing TDs: 0

Total TDs: 26

Rating: 71.2

Colts D:

Average Points: 27.8 (29th)

Average Yards: 364.8 (29th)

Conclusion:

Stats say that Newton is better than Manning, right? :)

I guess I'm missing the point.

:jc:

[mav1234]

If you want to talk about numbers, talk about how much easier it is to rack up passing yards when you are playing from behind, or when your defense is off the field quickly because of huge gains they give up. Newton has been great but our poor defense has HELPED his individual statistics.

If that were true, why are his first half numbers overall so much better?

It's true that he has thrown for more yards in the 4th, but his 3rd and 4th quarter stats drop considerably compared to 1st/2nd quarter. I doubt I need to tell you how often we're actually leading or still very close at half time...

On top of that, you want to talk about someone wrecking up huge numbers late in games, go look at The Golden Calf of Bristol...

[Mage]

Peyton Manning (rookie year)

Games: 16

Completion Percentage: 56.7

Passing Yards: 3,739

Yds/Game: 233.7

Passing TDs: 26

Interceptions: 28

Rushing Yards: 62

Rushing TDs: 0

Total TDs: 26

Rating: 71.2

Colts D:

Average Points: 27.8 (29th)

Average Yards: 364.8 (29th)

Conclusion:

Stats say that Newton is better than Manning, right? :)

As a rookie? Yes.

What's your point?

[Cyberjag]

As a rookie? Yes.

What's your point?

I was just tossing out more stats. They can pretty much say whatever you want them to, huh?

[pstall]

I think you need to factor WHEN and where turnovers occur and do they lead to quick scores or were the tos returned for tds. Cam has been awesome but he has made some Delhomme like decisions as well. He will get better. I think each are doing what thier system/coaches allow. Give mewins over stats all day long.

[footballisasport]

Cam Newton is quite obviously better than The Golden Calf of Bristol and Dalton. The only reason they don't throw as many picks is because they aren't asked to make as many high-risk throws, mainly because they have great defenses. It's no coincidence that Dalton began turning the ball over more when his defense began to decline against teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

And when your completion percentage is 48%, then not throwing a ton of interceptions doesn't actually impress me.

You're actually right. That is the problem all three rookie QBs, Andy, Cam and Ponder, are struggling with. Trying to force the game instead of letting it come to them.

When Dalton was playing against teams his defense could easily handle, his ints. were non-existant. As soon as he was up against more challenging defensive teams, you saw the difference. With Cam, I personal believe he feels he has to score a TD everytime he touches the ball because he's mindful of the Panthers' defense love of giving away the game. Ponder, I haven't seen a game with him in awhile, but I kinda feel he's struggling with trying to do to much also. I saw in the highlights that he was benched this past Sunday...Sad.

I honestly believe the more maturity and instinctual these young guys get, the more they will pick their posion. And hopefully in the Panther's case, a better defense can help Cam not form to many bad habits..

[footballisasport]

I think Cam is on pace to challenge the rookie passing record.

Cam has accounted for a boat load of yardage and points.

Dalton and The Golden Calf of Bristol are having good season too.

If you combined Dalton and The Golden Calf of Bristol it would rival Cam's production.

The Golden Calf of Bristol's lack of turnovers are key to his success.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, if you watch the Broncos play, you can tell how instinctual those receivers have gotten. Their eyes are always on Tim. One of the reason why Tim Int. is so low is because none of the other team's defensive players can really catch his balls. Heck, some of his own players have to go almost to the ground to catch his balls. Some time the ball will hit the dirt before it gets to his own receiver. As we all know, most int. happen in the air. If you're barely throwing high, then int. should be a minimum.