Jason Baker is 35th in punting, 36th in net punting

[Lout]

never saw it.

i haven't really been happy with him for years, though. don't think that you are alone in that and don't think it's a big deal that "nobody" agreed with you.

It's not like my feelings were hurt or anything. I just wish our fans could take a step back and look at our team/players, and be more subjective. The other thing that gets me is when everyone over-values newly drafted players. Like Hogan for instance.. why does everyone think that a 4th round rookie is going to come in and dominate the place? There is nothing wrong with optimism, but let's be realistic here. /rant

When we signed Seyi Ajirotutu.. everyone thought that he would be the starter by the end of the season.. my gawd.. if it were only that easy to pick up scrub players that were cut from other teams and turn them into starting calibur players in the span of 16 weeks..

[TruCatzFan]

Lout... Hogan may have been drafted in the 4th round but was widely regarded as a TOP 3 prospect before his injury/off field issues...

We have every right to be excited about Hogan.

Edit: I also think the coaching staff has done a terrific job on not rushing him into a losing season as well. Let him fully recuperate, and play when it counts next year. We should still draft a CB no later than the 2nd round IMO... Even assuming Hogan shakes out, we're 1 Gamble injury away from having another problem.

[rayzor]

It's not like my feelings were hurt or anything. I just wish our fans could take a step back and look at our team/players, and be more subjective. The other thing that gets me is when everyone over-values newly drafted players. Like Hogan for instance.. why does everyone think that a 4th round rookie is going to come in and dominate the place? There is nothing wrong with optimism, but let's be realistic here. /rant

When we signed Seyi Ajirotutu.. everyone thought that he would be the starter by the end of the season.. my gawd.. if it were only that easy to pick up scrub players that were cut from other teams and turn them into starting calibur players in the span of 16 weeks..

you're going a bit heavy throwing that word "everyone" around.

it's not as extreme as you are making it out to be.

also...are you saying we should be more subjective while complaining about people speculating and going on their opinion?

[Delhommey]

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/20749-the-take-on-st.html

We've been having this conversation for a few years now...