Justice, Charlotte style

[Darth Biscuit]

Here's why the perp is dead...and rightfully so.

He was perfectly within his right to approach and confront the perps and call the police. When they made an attempt to hurt him (be it gun, machete, car, whatever), he had the right to defend himself.

Or is the fireman still a POS...

I'm not saying the guy that got shot isn't an asshole criminal... but this other guy tried to stop a car with his body? Um... still sounds a bit fishy to me. If he stole my poo, I'd be pissed too... but unless there's some other info, still seems a bit over the top.

[g5jamz]

I'm not saying the guy that got shot isn't an asshole criminal... but this other guy tried to stop a car with his body? Um... still sounds a bit fishy to me. If he stole my poo, I'd be pissed too... but unless there's some other info, still seems a bit over the top.

According to the investigation...the perp lunged the car at the guy who'd pulled the gun on them to stop. He contacted authorities and was holding them until police arrived. Dude guns car at him...he shoots.

Try doing that to a police officer and see what happens. We weren't there so we don't know how aggressive he made an attempt to drive over the fireman. According to the investigation, the police/DA felt evidence proved the fieman's story. Over the top? Maybe...but a car can be a weapon as well.

[lymelizzard]

If he shot them on his own property during a break in, fair game.

He left his property, chased them down, and killed one? Yeah, murder.

On 12/1 North Carolinas new Castle Doctrine Laws came into effect......So it might be a little different now.

[Niner National]

Glad to hear he wasn't charged.

[Darth Biscuit]

According to the investigation...the perp lunged the car at the guy who'd pulled the gun on them to stop. He contacted authorities and was holding them until police arrived. Dude guns car at him...he shoots.

Try doing that to a police officer and see what happens. We weren't there so we don't know how aggressive he made an attempt to drive over the fireman. According to the investigation, the police/DA felt evidence proved the fieman's story. Over the top? Maybe...but a car can be a weapon as well.

All I'm saying is that it seems more reasonable to me to get out of the way instead of shooting the guy dead. Yeah, he's a scumbag criminal, and in all honesty we're probably better off without him, but if he just robbed the guy, was trying to get away, and the shooter stepped in front of the car, it seems a bit much to me...

I guess the guy trying to get away called the guy with the gun's bluff and lost... I'm not crying for the guy, but I can see it both ways.

[KillerKat]

If someone is in your house in the middle of the night dial 911 and stay away from them.

Don't go shooting up your house. You are not John McClain.

Incorrect

CHARLOTTE, NC -- Unlike North Carolina's current Castle Doctrine which applies only to homes, the revised law now applies to vehicles and places of work. Taking effect on Thursday, December 1, North Carolina's new "Castle Doctrine" law, will address specific circumstances under which a person can legally shoot or use deadly force against another.

The new law is longer and says when deadly force is permissible.

Under the new law, the lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle or workplace isn't required to retreat prior to using deadly force. The law presumes that a person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter one of these locations intends to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

The old "Castle Doctrine" law says "A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence is justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry if the occupant reasonably apprehends that the intruder may kill or inflict serious bodily harm to the occupant or others in the home or residence, or if the occupant reasonably believes that the intruder intends to commit a felony in the home or residence."

The new law also modifies rules of self-defense and defense of others.

http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/nc-news/North-Carolinas-new-Castle-Doctine-gun-law-takes-effect-Dec-1st-134793228.html

However the shooter is in trouble...

Valone also made it clear that there are limits in the new law. If the intruder tries to leave, the Castle Doctrine no longer applies. The bill also includes the right to defend your car and workplace, but you can't just pull a gun on anybody walking by. "(The intruder) has to forcibly and unlawfully try to enter the vehicle," Valone said, adding that "Castle Doctrine is not a get out of jail free card."

Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/12/06/1691846/sensible-changes-in-nc-gun-law.html#ixzz1gXCg1tgj

[g5jamz]

Incorrect

http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/nc-news/North-Carolinas-new-Castle-Doctine-gun-law-takes-effect-Dec-1st-134793228.html

However the shooter is in trouble...

The shooter isn't in trouble because the decision to shoot the perpetrator wasn't to further protect property, but to protect himself from harm (perp attempting to run him down with vehicle).

Now...can the police/DA bring up charges that he brandished a weapon in a "citizen's arrest"? Not sure.

[thefuzz]

I keep a loaded .357 Magnum under my side of the bed. I live on the bottom floor. My girlfriend has been broken into 3 times in her past. One time the perp ended up killing a woman in a hotel room a couple of days after the break in.

If you come into my home unannounced in the night, you will have gun sights on you. If you "break" into my house at night you will be shot. As for the one coming in, I will ask you once to announce who you are.

I will not be be shot by a meth head trying to find power tools to pawn.

[Wither]

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/29983914/detail.html

Home owner probably gonna get arrested...

Obviously. He committed a crime.