Unbiased website. Newton vs Tebow

[TheRealDeal]

Cam has more starts than said player.

[micnificent28]

Cam has more starts than said player.

Tim has been in a nfl system for 2 years and has had more quailty quarterback coaching that cam. For being the starter for 3 years at florida and 2 years pro.

[TheRealDeal]

Tim has been in a nfl system for 2 years and has had more quailty quarterback coaching that cam. For being the starter for 3 years at florida and 2 years pro.

Those 3 years at Florida sure did make him a polished NFL QB :confused:

Being third on the depth chart in a John Fox system also screams "quality quarterback coaching" considering John Fox hated and he's John fuging Fox.

[Mr. Scot]

Tim has been in a nfl system for 2 years and has had more quailty quarterback coaching that cam. For being the starter for 3 years at florida and 2 years pro.

I don't know that I'd buy that. How many Florida quarterbacks do you see succeeding in the NFL?

I'd say Newton owes his success more to George Whitfield and Mike Shula than his college coaches. The Golden Calf of Bristol had similar help and has had more time to adjust but just isn't there.

[BigSyke]

yeah so if i shoot a perfect 3 pointer one time and you shoots 8 but miss 2, im a better 3 point shooter than you trd???????? lol

SOME STATS are very misleading...........

[micnificent28]

I don't know that I'd buy that. How many Florida quarterbacks do you see succeeding in the NFL?

I'd say Newton owes his success more to George Whitfield and Mike Shula than his college coaches. The Golden Calf of Bristol had similar help and has had more time to adjust but just isn't there.

Im sure any quarterback coaching you get at one of the top football programs in the country is better than what you get at d-2 school. Yes cam had one year at auburn,but their offense was just as wonky as florida's.

[micnificent28]

Those 3 years at Florida sure did make him a polished NFL QB :confused:

Being third on the depth chart in a John Fox system also screams "quality quarterback coaching" considering John Fox hated and he's John fuging Fox.

No it didnt make tim polished. But, part of that is just because tim doesn't have the skillset most qbs have. His throwing motion is always gonna be awful. Remember that whole offseason he has supposedly fix it?. Now he's back to throwing side armed.

And as far as being 3rd string on a john fox coached team come on... John was not there coach last year where tim was a rookie learning the majority of the year holding a clipboard. And john fox isnt the qb coach responsible for tim's devlopement. Yes he plays in fox's system but, fox is not the one teaching tim to be a quarterback.

[Mr. Scot]

Im sure any quarterback coaching you get at one of the top football programs in the country is better than what you get at d-2 school. Yes cam had one year at auburn,but their offense was just as wonky as florida's.

Have you looked at how Florida QBs tend to fare in the NFL?

Here are some of The Golden Calf of Bristol's predecessors:

- Chris Leak

- Rex Grossman

- Jesse Palmer

- Doug Johnson

- Danny Wuerffel

- Shane Matthews

Granted these are under different coaches, but mostly similar systems and all the same school.

When your most successful product is Rex Grossman, you can't exactly lay claim to being a school that produces great pro quarterbacks.

[BigSyke]

you notice no one is comparing cam to dalton latley all because he is not WINNING. but if he was....... oh my god!!!! winning is a team effort dude, with defense being more important.

and you can tell cam is better becaue everyone uses him as a measuring stick.

[TheRealDeal]

But now The Golden Calf of Bristol has the all mighty John Fox and his desire to develop QBs.......

Plus, having those 11 starts compared to Cam's 13 really let The Golden Calf of Bristol get a feel for the game. All those reps as third stringer out of sheer spite from Fox in that limited camp really helped his development as well.

[mav1234]

Funny how people are comparing a QB that has been in the league to a QB that is a Rookie. If there is an argument right now, there want be in a year or two.

While there is no replacement for NFL experience, The Golden Calf of Bristol really isn't your typical "QB that has been in the league." He's a second year pro that played 3 games as a rookie then ended up with a new head coach, new offensive system, all in a shortened year. I do think that The Golden Calf of Bristol benefited from playing a bit at the end last year but he isn't a really good example of a veteran QB or something... he's a very young inexperienced guy too.

[Snake]

Those 3 years at Florida sure did make him a polished NFL QB :confused:

Being third on the depth chart in a John Fox system also screams "quality quarterback coaching" considering John Fox hated and he's John f*cking Fox.

But now The Golden Calf of Bristol has the all mighty John Fox and his desire to develop QBs.......

Plus, having those 11 starts compared to Cam's 13 really let The Golden Calf of Bristol get a feel for the game. All those reps as third stringer out of sheer spite from Fox in that limited camp really helped his development as well.

Your arguments are laughable. You dance around the facts like a ballerina. The Golden Calf of Bristol has had 2 training camps and two years worth of NFL QB coaching and still is only at the level of an NFL Rookie. While Newton has had one TC and not even a year of NFL QB coaching. Trying to argue starts is down right ignorant cause The Golden Calf of Bristol has more games(20) than Cam.

Like I said before, people have to twist crap to even try to get a good argument that The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than Cam. Next year there will be no argument.

[Snake]

While there is no replacement for NFL experience, The Golden Calf of Bristol really isn't your typical "QB that has been in the league." He's a second year pro that played 3 games as a rookie then ended up with a new head coach, new offensive system, all in a shortened year. I do think that The Golden Calf of Bristol benefited from playing a bit at the end last year but he isn't a really good example of a veteran QB or something... he's a very young inexperienced guy too.

Why do people keep bringing that he is inexperienced up when Gabbert is prob in the worst situation for a QB and has better stats then The Golden Calf of Bristol and just as many starts. As I have said before you can twist it all you want but the numbers dont lie.

[mav1234]

Why do people keep bringing that he is inexperienced up when Gabbert is prob in the worst situation for a QB and has better stats then The Golden Calf of Bristol and just as many starts. As I have said before you can twist it all you want but the numbers dont lie.

how does gabbert have "better stats" than The Golden Calf of Bristol? he has 4 fewer TDs, like four times as many interceptions, certainly doesn't have the "wins argument" on his side, barely has a higher completion percentage, has a low YPA, a lower YPC... I mean sure Gabbert has had his moments that make me think he still has a chance in this league but there is no way to objectively look at The Golden Calf of Bristol and Gabbert and say Gabbert is having the better season stats wise.