Cam vs Tim

[BBQ&Beer]

I think it's more fitting the way I wrote it;) And for some reason, I think that would actually bother you. Personally I'd just laugh and poke fun, but I have a feeling you'd probably truly be offended if he started listening to Justin Bieber. You'd take that personally.

Ring, ring..

[teeray]

You know what I want. The only thing that actually matters more than all those meaningless categories you keep talking about. Winning, efficiency, scoring, not turning over the ball. Simple. In that order

You know... the ones that have proven to matter repeatedly, over and over and over all season long. Every game. Every time we argued. The ones where when we rank good we win, when we don't we lose. Unlike the rest of the vacuum stats.

Or you can keep playing that record of how many yards, or points we keep scoring and yet continue to lose. They don't matter if you are not efficient and turn over the ball all day long. Waste of effort(inefficient).

Let's see where we stood today:

416/23 = 18.0.

That would put us about 28th for the year. We're 22nd, still, about where we have been all year, and for the day, we also ranked 22nd worse in the league. But hey we're ranked top 10 in the ones that have little to do with winning! Awesome, no?

Scoring on 23% of your drives is efficient and wins games for 90% of the NFL. You want to win?? You want better YPP?? Then pray for a better defense because it ain't happening until we do.

Turning the ball over at the 40 yard line shouldn't excuse a 40 yard TD drive. Not with a decent or average offense.

But even if you put that one on the offense (which you shouldn't) if your think allowing 24 points on drives that weren't benefited by our turnovers is a way to succeed in the NFL you are void of any credibility.

Give the Panthers an average defense, we are in the playoff chase. Simple and plain.

[Showtime]

Dude we're 22nd in efficiency as a whole on offense. Not in yards. Not in point. Not in certain situations, but as a TOTAL offensive package that we put on the field. We're inefficient. Have been all year. Teams with inefficient offenses lose.

Stop trying to argue against common freaking sense. The Panthers have an average defense when our offense plays efficient. Try to accept and grasp the concept, that teams with inefficient offenses, in the real world, not vacuum stats and fantasy football, don't have average defenses. They have losing defenses who allow more points than others. They get beat.

I know it's hard to you to admit you were wrong after so many months of arguing with me, but this isn't going to change, ok? What I have been speaking will be true NEXT SEASON as well. And the season after. And the decade after....

[-13 Amp-]

its possible to lose a game and still be "the most efficient offense"...so get the fug outta here with that non-sense kuz that alone makes it just as "pointless" as the other stats...

[Showtime]

Yes it's possible. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut. Even Isaac Newton is wrong about gravity. It's not ALWAYS 9.81 m/s2. It does change slightly if you're on a mountain. . But the only place it really changes is in outer space...or a different world. And efficiency is no different. In a different world, inefficiency might actually lead to winning consistently. Even I am wrong from time to time-*shock*- as crazy as that sounds.

In reality though, in our world, gravity stays pretty much the same no matter where you are at, I'm rarely wrong and efficient offenses almost always win. You have to be consistently efficient to win consistently. That's just an unwritten rule of the NFL and sports in general.

[Killa Cam 69]

cams a rookie .. chill out homie

[Showtime]

Hi. Welcome Killa Cam. I am a Panthers fan. I know. Been watching football and analyzing Cam for some time now. Thanks though. Keep up the good work;)

[Killa Cam 69]

you need to get laid

[Showtime]

You need to grow pubic hair.

[Killa Cam 69]

your the one who sounds like a sarcastic 15 year old bitch... every post your crying and trying to make your self sound like a genius. stick with your world of warcraft and quit crying like a bitch.

[Showtime]

Another ignorant tough guy on the internet. You'll fit right in.

[Killa Cam 69]

another guy playing the victim

[teeray]

Dude we're 22nd in efficiency as a whole on offense. Not in yards. Not in point. Not in certain situations, but as a TOTAL offensive package that we put on the field. We're inefficient. Have been all year. Teams with inefficient offenses lose.

Stop trying to argue against common freaking sense. The Panthers have an average defense when our offense plays efficient. Try to accept and grasp the concept, that teams with inefficient offenses, in the real world, not vacuum stats and fantasy football, don't have average defenses. They have losing defenses who allow more points than others. They get beat.

I know it's hard to you to admit you were wrong after so many months of arguing with me, but this isn't going to change, ok? What I have been speaking will be true NEXT SEASON as well. And the season after. And the decade after....

Not sure where you are getting our efficiency is 22nd?? We are in the top 10 in all advanced statistics.

[jtnc]

Another ignorant tough guy on the internet. You'll fit right in.

Yep, internet tough guy. Now go to sleep, school is in the morning, bus comes early.