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[TheRealDeal]

I'm sure these deeds are also done for tax purposes, and are recommended by financial advisers and planners. This basically dilutes their moral value and underhandedly disguises them as better deeds than they may well be.

Please tell me how going to the Philippines when he was in college was done for tax purposes?

Please tell me how Cam Newton setting up a charity for kids isn't for Tax purposes yet we should all praise him for being such a good person.

The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't just putting his name on a tax shelter and claiming to do good things making an appearance here or there, he's in the fuging trenches doing work he believes is the right thing to do.

You guys honestly make me sick with your hate for no reason.

[Bronn]

So everyone should praise Cam for helping out kids with some TV cameras around but we should all hate The Golden Calf of Bristol because he does good deeds but also believes in Jesus and isn't cowardly enough to hide his beliefs?

??

Who said that?

lol

I can feel the hate flowing through you.

[Bronn]

Please tell me how going to the Philippines when he was in college was done for tax purposes?

Please tell me how Cam Newton setting up a charity for kids isn't for Tax purposes yet we should all praise him for being such a good person.

The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't just putting his name on a tax shelter and claiming to do good things making an appearance here or there, he's in the fuging trenches doing work he believes is the right thing to do.

You guys honestly make me sick with your hate for no reason.

y don't u go have The Golden Calf of Bristol's baby?

becuz u r too busy with Matt Moore's cock most of the time

[TheRealDeal]

Explain your statement...

Or admit you are a fuging idiot and should #killyourself

Your choice

[Bronn]

What statement, troll?

You interjected Cam Newton into a discussion about The Golden Calf of Bristol...

[TheRealDeal]

What statement, troll?

You interjected Cam Newton into a discussion about The Golden Calf of Bristol...

Good on the guy for doing the good deeds he does.

However, doing them in the name of a savior that obviously has no ear to all the people of the world is a little disgusting. At least, to me.

I'm sure these deeds are also done for tax purposes, and are recommended by financial advisers and planners. This basically dilutes their moral value and underhandedly disguises them as better deeds than they may well be.

Please tell me how going to the Philippines when he was in college was done for tax purposes?

Please tell me how Cam Newton setting up a charity for kids isn't for Tax purposes yet we should all praise him for being such a good person.

The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't just putting his name on a tax shelter and claiming to do good things making an appearance here or there, he's in the fuging trenches doing work he believes is the right thing to do.

Do you hate Cam for setting up a tax shelter or just hate The Golden Calf of Bristol because he does honest, unselfish work that he believes is his responsibility?

The Golden Calf of Bristol went when he was in college, please explain the tax shelters. Remember, not everyone was making a salary in college like Cam was.

Or...

Just admit you are a fuging idiot.

[g5jamz]

The tax sheltering analogy could be made without inserting Cam into the mix. Keep it as that.

[Bronn]

Above TRD reply warrants no response other than:

Please see definition of "also"

[TheRealDeal]

The tax sheltering analogy could be made without inserting Cam into the mix. Keep it as that.

It could, but it lends context to The Golden Calf of Bristol. People praised Cam for talking about setting up a charity with his name on it yet they hate The Golden Calf of Bristol because he speaks to prisoners, goes to foreign countries to help doctors do their duty because they are too busy, he speaks to children and tries to be the best example he can be. I just don't understand where in there he is receiving a tax break. That just seems like he's losing time out of his day but he doesn't mind because it's something he believes is right.

He's not forking over a check and calling it a day, he's there, in the flesh doing work he believes is here to do.

How can you support Cam, but hate The Golden Calf of Bristol in this situation?

Above TRD reply warrants no response other than:

Please see definition of "also"

You should look up the definition of a tax shelter and realize there should be no "also"

[Delhomeboy]

1. My problems with The Golden Calf of Bristol are mainly on the field and in the media.

2. He interjects his religion in interviews where it isn't really warranted, and by doing so, he openly invites criticism by those who do not share his belief.

Some criticism is inevitable, sure; but a lot of it is people just not wanting to hear about it, which I don't get. I mean, if it bothers you, don't listen. I don't see how it affects people for him to say these things.

3. Sure he may, like everyone, do plenty of good deeds, but he also gets paid a disproportionate amount of monetary compensation for being an entertainer, while many people in this country are unemployed. He should consider this and how it conflicts with the morals he openly discusses.

Does everyone do good deeds? I'm not so sure. And he's allowed to make money, he's not a Catholic priest. The fact he gets paid so much for playing a game is a whole other conversation that has nothing to do with him.

I mean, just because he believes in Christ does not mean he has to be a pauper. It does mean he has a responsibility to help people and to make the world a better place, which it appears he does.

Good on the guy for doing the good deeds he does.

However, doing them in the name of a savior that obviously has no ear to all the people of the world is a little disgusting. At least, to me.

Again, this is an entire other discussion, namely theological. It has little or nothing to do with him. He does these good things for the people you mentioned, which is what he's called to do.

I'm sure these deeds are also done for tax purposes, and are recommended by financial advisers and planners. This basically dilutes their moral value and underhandedly disguises them as better deeds than they may well be.

I hate to vehemently disagree with you jsquared (we GOT fans have to stick together! :D ) But this kind of comment is exactly what's wrong with this type of discussion. How can you be SURE that he does these things for tax purposes? How can I be SURE he doesn't. We can't. WE DO NOT KNOW THIS PERSON. So speculating about him is completely pointless and rather disingenuous. All we have is the evidence at hand, and AS OF RIGHT NOW, there is nothing to indicate that he does what he does for no other reason than he wants to and to spread the word of Christ. Tomorrow we might find out some more info that changes that fact. But today, there is no evidence of that. You cannot say moral value is diluted when you do not know that he's doing these things for tax purposes.

[Bronn]

I hate to vehemently disagree with you jsquared (we GOT fans have to stick together! :D ) But this kind of comment is exactly what's wrong with this type of discussion. How can you be SURE that he does these things for tax purposes? How can I be SURE he doesn't. We can't. WE DO NOT KNOW THIS PERSON. So speculating about him is completely pointless and rather disingenuous. All we have is the evidence at hand, and AS OF RIGHT NOW, there is nothing to indicate that he does what he does for no other reason than he wants to and to spread the word of Christ. Tomorrow we might find out some more info that changes that fact. But today, there is no evidence of that. You cannot say moral value is diluted when you do not know that he's doing these things for tax purposes.

Alright, I will give you that much (since you can debate a point without name calling and dumb Twitter lingo)...

I said I was "sure"... I should have said I "assumed," since I was speaking somewhat figuratively and not literally...

But, I guess where our views of the situation differ is that we each assume that we know one way or another. He hasn't given us any reason to think otherwise, and that is the main reason I don't really care at this point.

If past evidence from other people in the business (everyone, really) is to set a precedent, then surely most folks would have no issue assuming that The Golden Calf of Bristol is in the same situation.

I didn't really want to point this out, but religion/churchy type things have long been the best way to avoid taxes. Lots of people with money do it. Religions are created to do it.

Again, I don't really care about The Golden Calf of Bristol/god/etc. stuff... It just makes for easy trolling...

The Broncos haven't really beat anyone this year, save maybe the Jets or Chargers, and even those games have had more determining factors driving the outcome than The Golden Calf of Bristol. Yet, he gets all the press, all the credit, and all the airtime... Why? Because it is part of the media's agenda to make him a poster boy for their cause. No, that isn't his fault.

He went 2/8 passing in a game. Total. That isn't something that deserves air time or recognition. No matter how good the story seems.

This isn't even a The Golden Calf of Bristol issue really, as anyone watching Survivor can tell you about this season and the blatant God agenda it is pushing.

[Delhomeboy]

If past evidence from other people in the business (everyone, really) is to set a precedent, then surely most folks would have no issue assuming that The Golden Calf of Bristol is in the same situation.

I totally agree, and, as I said in another post, I think this is part of the reason why people are latching onto him so much. It's cause in Western philosophy, we look up to people to guide us. Good thing or bad thing? I don't know. It is what it is. But over the past decade, whom do we have to look up to? Corrupt politicians? Vacuous celebrities? Church leaders preaching messages of hatred, then going right around and doing the very things they are railing against?

It's a cynical time in this country. We need a person to look up to, but there is none. Enter The Golden Calf of Bristol. The Golden Calf of Bristol seems (seems, mind you) like a good guy. He seems humble. He seems genuine, like he really cares. He actually appears like he could be a legitimate role model, which is exactly what we are starved for. Is it any surprise that people latch onto him? Sociologically speaking, I don't think so. Is that his fault? No. And it might become a burden that's too much for even him to bear. But that remains to be seen.

The Broncos haven't really beat anyone this year, save maybe the Jets or Chargers, and even those games have had more determining factors driving the outcome than The Golden Calf of Bristol. Yet, he gets all the press, all the credit, and all the airtime... Why? Because it is part of the media's agenda to make him a poster boy for their cause. No, that isn't his fault.

He went 2/8 passing in a game. Total. That isn't something that deserves air time or recognition. No matter how good the story seems.

This isn't even a The Golden Calf of Bristol issue really, as anyone watching Survivor can tell you about this season and the blatant God agenda it is pushing.

I also think part of the The Golden Calf of Bristol phenomenon is a) how he's winning, and b) the fact he's winning through adversity. Again, going philosophical here, but we've long valued success against all odds in this country. No one believed The Golden Calf of Bristol could win at this level, and a lot of people still don't. This creates adversity against him, and causes people to actively cheer for him.

But yeah, the media hype is ridiculous. the only person not making it about him is him, and his teammates. Everyone else just wants ratings.

[Bronn]

TBQH The Golden Calf of Bristol is really just going through Jake Delhomme syndrome... John Fox must be the primary carrier...

Basically, it means you win games you have no business winning, with ways you have no business succeeding with...

In a couple years (when the league catches on), The Golden Calf of Bristol will be an afterthought, and we'll be talking about how he threw 5 picks and had 4 fumbles in a game...

[bleys]

People that are overly religious scare me

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