Lol @ luck!!

[mav1234]

some of you act like teenage girls when it comes to quarterbacks not named Cam Newton.

[chef17]

Cam Newton just stopped by the house and said "Fug those people on your little list, none of them can see me!" basically Cam said "hi" right back @ you.

I find it hilarious that people here think that Luck will be a good NFL QB... LOL

Proof that ESPN isn't just a sports monopoly, but also now in the business of brainwashing people.

Funny how like 95% of the people here didn't even want Cam, because of the way the media outlets portrayed him... And now look...

Get on my level or stfu! A bunch of "know it alls" that are always wrong.

Just as I said Cam will save this franchise well b4 the draft, and before we even had the #1 pick locked in... I'm also calling that Luck will Suck.

Save the date, quote the post... I really don't care!

Pot meet kettle

[King Taharqa]

This

Question: Why do you always make things up, or make non-facts facts to try and twist things and prove a point? It can be your opinion that he is over hyped, and underachiever, or a disappointment in your eyes... But it was never stated his reason for returning were winning a heisman and a title... He specifically said he came back to finish his degree and play with his finish and finish with the same group of guys he came in with 4 years prior.

You have valid good opinions, no need to make up/speculate garbage to boost your points.

In the past before the season you attacked me for defending our QB from character attacks and questions about his ability to perform on the next level. I pissed you off when I spoke about the racial bias he faced. The bias you are now exhibiting. I noticed once the season started you didnt have have the heart to admit maybe you were wrong in defending ignorance and racism against a QB you werent as high on. Now youre mad because the QB you so easily bought into as being better (and lobbied for us to draft) isnt quite living up to the hype and Im voicing that. You have good opinions at times, but I think youre extremely naive and biased. You were Ok with folks trashing Cam to make a Luck seem better, but dont want me speaking on Lucks failures. In fact you seem very sensitive about Luck. Maybe you relate to him alot, I dont know. I know privilege alone wont put you thru life theyhateme45. Wanting to assimilate with idiots so you can say "Im different than the rest of them!" wont bring you joy. Youre not gonna get that acceptance you crave like that. Holding yourself to a higher standard will. If you held Luck to a higher standard hed be a better player in the end. Hold him to the standard you held Cameron if youre even capable of doing so.

[TheRealDeal]

Cam Newton just stopped by the house and said "Fug those people on your little list, none of them can see me!" basically Cam said "hi" right back @ you.

I find it hilarious that people here think that Luck will be a good NFL QB... LOL

Proof that ESPN isn't just a sports monopoly, but also now in the business of brainwashing people.

Funny how like 95% of the people here didn't even want Cam, because of the way the media outlets portrayed him... And now look...

Get on my level or stfu! A bunch of "know it alls" that are always wrong.

Just as I said Cam will save this franchise well b4 the draft, and before we even had the #1 pick locked in... I'm also calling that Luck will Suck.

Save the date, quote the post... I really don't care!

You owe me everything you ever thought about owning when you guaranteed the Heat would win the next 6 titles, including last year.

Cam hasn't proven anything other than he has accuracy issues, struggles reading defenses, his footwork gets sloppy, he's not that mentally tough and he can make the exciting play now and again.

[Captain Obvious]

Cam Newton just stopped by the house and said "Fug those people on your little list, none of them can see me!" basically Cam said "hi" right back @ you.

I find it hilarious that people here think that Luck will be a good NFL QB... LOL

Proof that ESPN isn't just a sports monopoly, but also now in the business of brainwashing people.

Funny how like 95% of the people here didn't even want Cam, because of the way the media outlets portrayed him... And now look...

Get on my level or stfu! A bunch of "know it alls" that are always wrong.

Just as I said Cam will save this franchise well b4 the draft, and before we even had the #1 pick locked in... I'm also calling that Luck will Suck.

Save the date, quote the post... I really don't care!

whoa, whoa, whoa, Cam has only won 4 games more than Luck in the NFL at this point. Lets not canonize him yet. Neither one is an elite NFL QB yet.

[dimbee]

I'm not aware of winning the Heisman being a qualifier for being a successful NFL player. Hell, winning the Heisman has been more of a bugaboo for NFL success than not.

Chris Weinke sure did light it up, eh?

[stirs]

I think Luck will go to Indy and Indy will trade Peyton Manning. Who to trade Manning to is another story.

Miami? Cleveland? Seattle? Washington?

[theyhateme45]

In the past before the season you attacked me for defending our QB from character attacks and questions about his ability to perform on the next level. I pissed you off when I spoke about the racial bias he faced. The bias you are now exhibiting. I noticed once the season started you didnt have have the heart to admit maybe you were wrong in defending ignorance and racism against a QB you werent as high on. Now youre mad because the QB you so easily bought into as being better (and lobbied for us to draft) isnt quite living up to the hype and Im voicing that. You have good opinions at times, but I think youre extremely naive and biased. You were Ok with folks trashing Cam to make a Luck seem better, but dont want me speaking on Lucks failures. In fact you seem very sensitive about Luck. Maybe you relate to him alot, I dont know. I know privilege alone wont put you thru life theyhateme45. Wanting to assimilate with idiots so you can say "Im different than the rest of them!" wont bring you joy. Youre not gonna get that acceptance you crave like that. Holding yourself to a higher standard will. If you held Luck to a higher standard hed be a better player in the end. Hold him to the standard you held Cameron if youre even capable of doing so.

Question: Why do you always make things up, or make non-facts facts to try and twist things and prove a point? It can be your opinion that he is over hyped, and underachiever, or a disappointment in your eyes... But it was never stated his reason for returning were winning a heisman and a title... He specifically said he came back to finish his degree and play with his finish and finish with the same group of guys he came in with 4 years prior.

You have valid good opinions, no need to make up/speculate garbage to boost your points.

Dude... did you not read what I said??? I said you have valid points, but there is no need to speculate and make poo up about stuff to add to it. I never said anything about your opinion besides I disagree, but I did point out the part of your statement that was just made up (and I don't know why).

Was I and other people wrong about Cam??? Hell yea.... based on what I saw and knew at the time it was justified... as I said back then and now it was never race driven... it's based on what I see on the field. Are my opinions about prospects always going to be right? Nope... But I explain how I feel about every situation and my reasoning behind it... rather it's just gut or based on something more.

But what I don't do is have preconceived opinions before hand where people know how I am going to feel or twist a particular subject before I say it. I don't debate with my ears closed not listening to others opinions... See I am of the belief that two people can be on the opposite side of a topic but have good valid points and should be able to respect the others opinion... but thats just me....

You will never find one post of mines where I lack objectivity or resigning in my opinions.

[The_Mango55]

Jason White won the Heisman over Eli Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Larry Fitzgerald. Every single voter knew he wasn't a pro prospect, and sure enough he wasn't even drafted.

[mav1234]

That's nice and all, until it was revealed by a friend that he stayed specifically to avoid Carolina.

where'd you hear that? I missed it.

[TheRealDeal]

Haha if you believe that, I have some beautiful ocean front property in Vegas to sell you

[Wyank]

Some thread on this forum. Think it was a call-in on some radio show.

If you ignore that, it's pretty obvious from what's come out this year that Luck's friends/family advised him not to come to Carolina.

If that would have been true, it would have made top headlines on espn, profootballtalk, and national non sports media.

[AppStatePanther]

Dude... did you not read what I said???

(and I don't know why).

1. He doesn't care what you actually said. He cares whether you are cheering for a certain type of person or not.

2.Yes, you do know why.

[mav1234]

Some thread on this forum. Think it was a call-in on some radio show.

If you ignore that, it's pretty obvious from what's come out this year that Luck's friends/family advised him not to come to Carolina.

A radio caller?? Really?

How is it obvious?

Luck said before that season even began he was going to finish his degree. Shockingly he decided to finish his degree. Frankly it worked out so well for us I don't understand why some feel slighted by him. There's no evidence to support it other than, apparently, a radio caller.

I highly doubt he had any problem with the Panthers at all. His father claims that to be totally opposite of the case and actually seemed to suggest playing for the Panthers would have actually been a better option than some other locations due to proximity to his family.