Will Muschamp is targeting Mike Shula to replace Charlie Weis

[Fiz]

As far a career progression going from a NFL QB coach to a college OC is a step backwards.

No not really not at all.

Hell, he'd probably be higher paid at Florida.

[fieryprophet]

Do none of us trust that Ron will pick up someone who can keep things rolling?

For a rookie head coach I'm pretty damn impressed with Rivera's seeming eye for people: Chud's been terrific, Shula's obviously doing good things with Cam, McDermott's worked with what he's had in talent, and some of our pickups like Applewhite and Keiser have been great.

[Ruff]

In the NFL, teams can deny parallel moves (anything not a head coaching job is considered a parallel move. I believe it was ReturnofFox that showed an awesome article on it last year), is it the same with college? Meaning, if Florida wanted Shula to be a coordinator, couldn't we just deny them the move?

[Cat'sGrowl]

That isn't a parallel move. Shula is receiving a promotion. Furthermore, they couldn't block the move as he isn't going to another NFL team. He is essentially quitting and getting a job somewhere completely different.

[Sword]

I think he gets a lot more attention here working with Cam then he would as OC of Florida. He's probably got a good shot at being an NFL OC not just in college; especially if he stays with us for another year and Cam keeps it up.

[edromeo]

No not really not at all.

Hell, he'd probably be higher paid at Florida.

Certainly.

If the goal is to become a NFL Headcoach moving from NFL QB coach to college OC is a step backwards.

How many college OC move directly into the NFL and become OC's vs NFL QB coaches become NFL OC's?

There are even NFL HC that are hired from the QB coach position.

Even if the Florida OC job pays more it is still a step further away from NFL HC.

[Fiz]

Certainly.

If the goal is to become a NFL Headcoach moving from NFL QB coach to college OC is a step backwards.

False premise.

How many college OC move directly into the NFL and become OC's vs NFL QB coaches become NFL OC's?

Irrelevant.

There are even NFL HC that are hired from the QB coach position.

Irrelevant.

Even if the Florida OC job pays more it is still a step further away from NFL HC.

restating false premise.

Learn to argue.

Better yet, don't post here ever again.

[edromeo]

~(nonsense)

You call that an argument?

You are avoiding an argument.

You made a statement that is false, yet rather then debate the points.

You resort to this.

Whatever floats your boat.

But no matter how you slice, in the hierarchy of football coaching.

An NFL QB coach is further up the ladder then a college OC.

How much you earn is not the sole determinate of career progression.

-Cheers

[Snake]

There is no stopping him if he wants to go. Sorry guys the fact is if another team wants to cherry pick you they can...

[panthers55]

He has already been a head coach in college and an OC in college and in the pros. He doesn't really need the experience on his resume at this point. I suspect the issue will be whether he is ready to go back and be an OC in college and whether he has learned everything he needs fron Chud. If as everyone thinks, Chud is going to be a HC in a year or two, it would make sense to stay with the Panthers. He either gets the OC job here or goes with Chud as his OC.Unless he and Chud don't see eye to eye. Either way he is further along the path than going back to college as an OC. Who knows what he will do but going to be the OC at Florida isn't that prestigious of a position given he was already HC at his alma mater. If he prefers college and working with new quarterbacks, he might llike the challenge but if he wants to get an OC job or head coach in the pros, going to Florida wouldn't be seen as a great move forward.

[Fiz]

You call that an argument?

You are avoiding an argument.

You made a statement that is false, yet rather then debate the points.

You resort to this.

Whatever floats your boat.

But no matter how you slice, in the hierarchy of football coaching.

An NFL QB coach is further up the ladder then a college OC.

How much you earn is not the sole determinate of career progression.

-Cheers

Your entire point assumes he wants to be a head coach. You have no way of knowing that, except that you assume that's what every coach wants, when there's plenty of examples of the exact opposite.

Do you see why you're fuging stupid now?

[Fiz]

Listen Florida offensive coordinator is practically the biggest non college hc job in the country. I know you guys in north Carolina don't get to watch good college football but it's basically a ticket to every open top job after a year or two, unless you're completely incompetent like Charlie Weiss, and even he got Kansas.

[tpanther]

Really Fiz...Really?

[Fiz]

Really Fiz...Really?

Christ trd how many parachute accounts did you make?