QB Rating for Week 13

[hitman80]

Has there ever been a time that a rookie QB, who has broken so many records and made such an impact on the offensive production from the previous year, has been chastised the way Cam has? By the "fans" of said team?

It seems there were so many people who thought we made the biggest mistake by drafting him. And, I admit, I bought in to it. I was made a skeptic by you guys. I can understand that teams will be trying to take Cam out of the game next year...and some will succeed. But after watching him throughout this season, I'm glad we have him on this team and I think we can be playoff contenders next year. Just one's lowly opinion.

[chef17]

these threads are for the oblivious. its been apparent that cam has been a top 5 qb this year regardless of category you speak of (except wins). this "oh cam is so good" realization every week is getting old.

Cam is legit. And hes a panther. Realize it, love it, accept it. total qbr rating thread not necessary for persuading

He isn't top 5 in passing yards, passings TDs, yards per attempt, or INTs

[Iceberg Slim]

He's top 5 in putting butts into seats, bringing attention to the Panthers......who really cares about the stats.....I feel confident when the ball is in his hands that something positive is going to happen.....

[chef17]

He's top 5 in putting butts into seats, bringing attention to the Panthers......who really cares about the stats.....I feel confident when the ball is in his hands that something positive is going to happen.....

Really? Being that winning is a stat, you prefer attention over winning?

[Panthro]

He isn't top 5 in passing yards, passings TDs, yards per attempt, or INTs

He's 8th in passing yards, Top 5 in Total TD's, and 7th in YPA.

Not bad for a first year player who you didn't want as a Panther. Perhaps you should send the Panthers an email and tell them what future AllPro you don't want in the 2012 draft. It would really help out.

[Montsta]

My most important metric to measure Cam this season? I watch every snap of every game, usually several times, and have had way more holler and yell with joy than scream what the fug were you thinking at my tv moments. Haven't had that in years, so I am happy with where he is at right now.

[ed bell]

Really? Being that winning is a stat, you prefer attention over winning?

Football is a team sport.....Cam has contributed in varying degrees to wins and losses, just like everyone else on the field and sidelines each week.

[Iceberg Slim]

IMO, What you miss in stats is the feeling of hope that this guy generates from folks who are passionate about the team and I am sorry there is no stat out there that can measure that. To me, everything else is irrelevant. On this board we constantly debate Cam, whether he is better than this QB or that QB, who cares really, at the end of the day what matters is the change and hope that he is bringing to the team. Bottom line, I support that, stats be damned

[Floppin]

He would crash outside of this style offense, playing in an NFL style offense, at this point in his professional career. The Air Coryell offense takes a lot of pressure of the quarterback doing complex mechanics.

It has a very complex offensive scheme as a whole, but what a QB actually does to throw the ball, is much simpler.

Wait so you don't consider a coryell based offense to be an "nfl" style offense?

[panthers55]

Guys. Why are we letting a few trolls take over threads and cause endless debates about Newton and the offense.

Here are the facts that matter- the offense after last week is top 10 in all yardage categories and the most important one which is points scored.

Newton has accounted for 26 touchdowns and 3800 yards in 12 games. That is over 2 touchdowns and 300 yards passing and running. That puts him 4th in total yards and 5th in touchdowns scored. If folks want to say there are 30 quarterbacks who can pass the ball better than him or have a better QB rating, I don't care. At the end of the day it counts as a TD no matter how you get into the endzone. Does it take away from the running backs? I just listen to opposing coaches talk about how hard it is to defend Newton in the redzone and that is all the answer I need.

If trolls want to analyze obscure stats or make obtuse arguments, be my guest. But honestly I don't care. Newton is a game changer just like The Golden Calf of Bristol is for Denver. When our defense catches up to the offense we will be very tough to beat. Until then I am just enjoying the ride. As for the trolls. Ignore them, after all they feed on people arguing with them. They have no play if we don't give it to them.

[chef17]

He's 8th in passing yards, Top 5 in Total TD's, and 7th in YPA.

Not bad for a first year player who you didn't want as a Panther. Perhaps you should send the Panthers an email and tell them what future AllPro you don't want in the 2012 draft. It would really help out.

1. 8th and 7th aren't top 5, so I was correct.

2. Would love to see where I ever said I didn't want Cam or where I even stated a preference for who I wanted to draft.

Football is a team sport.....Cam has contributed in varying degrees to wins and losses, just like everyone else on the field and sidelines each week.

I wasn't placing blame on Cam for the losing, simply replying to someone that implied attention is more important than stats when winning is a very important stat.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Cam is slightly worse than an undrafted free agent with only 9 more starts than him...ouch.

He's been in the league for five years and only has nine more starts than Cam.

Think there's a reason for that?

[panthers55]

Wait so you don't consider a coryell based offense to be an "nfl" style offense?

He doesn't have a clue so let it go. How you can have a very complex offensive scheme with multiple reads off of every play yet require the QB to do very little is beyond me. Arguing just feeds the troll and PFFL has shown he will stay at it for hundreds of posts changing alts as he gets banned 6 or 7 times a day. He will change the conversation going down different bunny trails to avoid being wrong. If the point of this message board is to discuss the Panthers and share information, you are wasting your time. He won't benefit from others or change his point of view . You might as well argue with a stone.

[footballisasport]

Cam is slightly worse than an undrafted free agent with only 9 more starts than him...ouch.

U're like the young girl who got rejected by the handsome school jock when u felt u shouldn't have been and simply can't get over it. So sad.