The Bullying Issue

[mr beauxjangles]

I want to bully that kid after watching that.

Honestly more ass beatings should be administed in this world.

Stop taking it and bust someones jaw.

Great point Kurb... bullies thrive on cowardice. If you let them bully, they will continue until you stop them... I had a hard time learning this when I was growing up, but once I stood up for myself, it stopped.

easier said than done for the majority of kids getting bullied.

[Jbro]

I honestly think kids are babied these days so when something happens they don't know how to deal with it.

Look at what we did when we were little rode bikes wherever we wanted, got PT jobs at 13, got spanked etc. Parents are way to overprotective these days and they might think they are helping but I think they are hurting kids. They don't even put fuging F's on papers anymore because they don't want to hurt kids feelings.

[Mrs Pantherfan]

Don't forget!! every one gets a trophy and there's no keeping score either..so that everyone is a winner....

that is bullsh*t btw, imo

[Darth Biscuit]

easier said than done for the majority of kids getting bullied.

Oh you're absolutely right... it's not easy. But if it's done that will usually end it.

I think 99% of this kind of thing just boils down to shitty parents... people that don't care one bit what their kids do. I've tried very hard to instill in my kids respect for others and trying to live their life not just thinking about themselves.

[Jbro]

Don't forget!! every one gets a trophy and there's no keeping score either..so that everyone is a winner....

that is bullsh*t btw, imo

Agreed except when I play. I want a trophy or I will rip my eyes out!!!!!

[Inimicus]

Teaching kids that violence doesn't solve anything is part of the problem.

I was bullied mercilessly by some of the kids in my neighborhood. Lasted for years. Right up until I went home crying one day and my old man got fed up with it. Told me if I wasn't going to stand up for myself he wasn't either. Told me to pick the biggest one, break his nose, and take the ensuing ass whooping like a man and it would stop.

Three days later I picked the second biggest on (I was scared but not stupid) and broke his nose with a history book in the lunch room. Took the 3 day suspension and never again had to take an ass whooping at school or in the neighborhood.

Violence stopped it when nothing else would. Sometimes you just gotta speak the bully's language.

[Kurb]

So tell me this. Apparently this kid had such low self esteem by the 2nd grade that he was cutting himself already. How does a 2nd grader know how to stand up for him/herself? And who is to say that the bullying started in school. It might have started with his own family. Some kids don't know how to stand up for themselves, or let alone feel they deserve to stand up for themselves especially after being bullied their whole life.

All I know is that I have a little girl in the first grade and she is a sweet, innocent girl who still believes in santa claus, the tooth fairy, and castles in the sky. If she were to get bullied like this kid did in the 1st grade she would not be busting someone's jaw either and I honestly think it would crush her. Sorry, I like my little girl the way she is and for now I have no problem being the one to protect her.

Hey you stop acting mature it freaks me the *** out.

[mmmbeans]

I honestly think kids are babied these days so when something happens they don't know how to deal with it.

Look at what we did when we were little rode bikes wherever we wanted, got PT jobs at 13, got spanked etc. Parents are way to overprotective these days and they might think they are helping but I think they are hurting kids. They don't even put fuging F's on papers anymore because they don't want to hurt kids feelings.

you realize that your ability to do those things was not by virtue of your own toughness but a function of your surrounding community right?

i think kids are tougher now in much worse ways. they don't care about each other as people because we as a society no longer see each other as anything beyond inconveniences, we're raising an entire generation of sociopaths.

[Jbro]

Teaching kids that violence doesn't solve anything is part of the problem.

Exactly. My kids could break any little fuggers arm at school, choke them out, knock them out etc. but for months before they learned any jiu jitsu, muay thai, wrestling etc. they learned never to use it unless they are attacked first. If they get attacked just do enough to stop them and that's it.

[boo7382]

I don't know what has exacerbated it but I was bullied all through elementary school and it only got worse throughout middle school.

Middle school was quite possibly the worst 3 years of my life but I never once considered hurting myself because of it. When I came home crying, I was informed by my dad that he went through the same thing and it just sucks.

Its hard to see what kids are seeing these days but the advancement of technology only means information can be spread faster and distributed to a much larger group of individuals.

What's more confusing to me is you could just put those people on ignore just as easily. But I guess that all goes back to the monitoring your children on the internet/texting bit.

On another note: Its awesome now when you see all the kids who gave you a hard time back in middle school when you check out at Wal-Mart and they are scanning or bagging your items. Or when you see how fat/gross/unsuccessful they are these days and get a teeny bit of satisfaction from that.

[Jbro]

you realize that your ability to do those things was not by virtue of your own toughness but a function of your surrounding community right?

Yes I do. And I think that is why kids were not killing themselves 20 years ago for being called gay.

[mmmbeans]

On another note: Its awesome now when you see all the kids who gave you a hard time back in middle school when you check out at Wal-Mart and they are scanning or bagging your items. Or when you see how fat/gross/unsuccessful they are these days and get a teeny bit of satisfaction from that.

man... i always find that really depressing.

[Guest Irv]

Got my kid a bowflex at age 5 it solved everything

[mmmbeans]

Yes I do. And I think that is why kids were not killing themselves 20 years ago for being called gay.

what were teen suicides about 20 years ago?