Big Ben thinks Cam is NOT ROY

[SOJA]

Dalton is putting up a nice rookie season that he deserves props for, but he has no shot at winning OROY. If Cam doesnt get it, DeMarco Murray will. The Cam-Dalton debate reminds me of the ROY chase in the NBA in 2004. LeBron puts up a 20, 5, & 5 (that only two other rookies had done before) season but Cavs arent a playoff team. Melo puts up slightly less numbers but his more talented Nuggs make the playoffs. Guess who got ROY? Funny thing is, that year some folks tried to use Melo's teams success to say he was and would become a better player, like some are doing with Dalton. Its ironic.

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[CarolinaPanthers2K11]

Cam is like Big Ben... without the rape... stupid attitude... and stubborn idiocy (biking without a helmet then saying f' you to a safety campaign geared toward kids? Douche...)

[dimbee]

Doesn't Dalton have better numbers than Cam does(QB rating & TD/INT ratio), other than yardage?

[BBQ&Beer]

The only reason y'all back Cam is because he's a Panther. If he were a Seahawk with the same numbers and wins you wouldn't give a rats ass about him and back Dalton all the way.

Nah, because then we'd have PP or Green, & would be too busy bitching about being 0-16 with the only bright spots being a couple of PRs for TDs.

[Chaos]

Doesn't Dalton have better numbers than Cam does(QB rating & TD/INT ratio), other than yardage?

Conveniently, this was posted yesterday by Smitty 89:

Cam Newton: 239/392, 61%, 3093 yds, 7.89 YPA, 12 TDs, 14 INTs, 81.1 Rating (54.5 QBR, 18th)

Rushing: 86att 464 yds, 5.4 YPC, 10 TDs, 1 FUM

Total Offense: 3557 yds, 22 total TDs, 15 total TOs.

Andy Dalton: 218/363, 60%, 2059 yds, 6.91 YPA, 16 TDs, 12 INTs, 81.6 rating (47.0, 24th)

Rushing: 23att 81 yds, 3.5 YPC, 1 TD, 2 FUMs

Total Offense: 2140 yds, 17 total TDs, 14 total TOs.

DIFFERENTIAL: +1417 yds, +5 total TDs, +0.98 YPA, +1.9 YPC, -1 total TO, -0.5 rating (+7.5 QBR)

[Marguide]

Doesn't Dalton have better numbers than Cam does(QB rating & TD/INT ratio), other than yardage?

Sure, as long as you ignore what he has done on the ground. I guess those 10 TDs don't count on the scoreboard?

Edit- Chaos beat me to it and stated the case better.

[La Pantera]

lol carolinahuddle is a joke. I thought this clown was banned?

Nope he's like the huddle herpes...you think your in the clear...then BAM!

[Grammer]

Remember when Zod called for TRD and GRD to be banned for eternity if they trolled like this again?

whatever happened to that

[ed bell]

Who's GRD?

[Panthers128]

Big Ben also thinks no means yes, so I wouldn't put much stock in his opinions.

[Panthers128]

Conveniently, this was posted yesterday by Smitty 89:

Cam has more than one fumble. He had two alone in the Vikings game.

[panthers55]

Doesn't Dalton have better numbers than Cam does(QB rating & TD/INT ratio), other than yardage?

If you count the 10 rushing touchdowns, it isn't close. The only reason Dalton has a better QB rating is because the rating only accounts for passing TDs which for most QBs is all they can do. It hasn't been adjusted to account for the new wave of QBs coming into the league who can run as well as pass. And for those who say that doesn't count, Dalton throws into the endzone because that is all he can do. Cam could do the same thing and would have more passing TDs, but runs because he can. Plus he knows that if he keeps the ball it is a safer play given he doesn't have to worry about interceptions or dropped passes.

[teeray]

Let me know when Big Ben gives his opinion on his favorite style donuts at Krispy Kreme. That is his other area of expertise.

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