Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

PP7 (non idiot title edition)


frash.exe

Recommended Posts

worst corner in the league

On the back of yet another impressive display on special teams I’ve heard a number of calls for Patrick Peterson (-1.1) to be named Defensive Rookie of the Year today. There’s only one minor problem with this view; he hasn’t played well as a cornerback so far. This game was no exception; he was thrown at nine times, allowing six receptions for 74 yards and never came close to breaking up a pass. While things could change (as not all the week 12 game data is in) he currently leads all corners in yards allowed with 641. Peterson is also tied for second in penalties given up (his eight equals Cedric Griffin and is one behind Brandon Browner); hardly DROTY material. The truth is he was so far off his man in this game it looked like a deliberate plan to let Brandon Lloyd (+1.3) have whatever he wanted underneath as long as he didn’t give up the big play behind him. If that was the plan it was carried out to the letter. That said, if you have a player of Peterson’s undoubted talent in a dead season when better to let him knock off the rough edges?

so, in a nutshell as of right now the Cardinals spent a top 5 draft pick on a great punt returner. Other than that he racks up penalties and gets abused in almost every game (seattle being his best performance giving up 1 catch for less than 10 passing yards and an INT). This is a lot different from the guy that was going to come in day one and start and "shut down" half the field with no safety help that everyone said he would be before the season

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think a lot of the hype for PP was because of his campaign for Heisman last year and his return ability. He's always been a great athlete but I always thought Prince Amukamara was a better cover corner. That's what I look for in a CB, not their return abilities.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think a lot of the hype for PP was because of his campaign for Heisman last year and his return ability. He's always been a great athlete but I always thought Prince Amukamara was a better cover corner. That's what I look for in a CB, not their return abilities.

'The hell is that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think a lot of the hype for PP was because of his campaign for Heisman last year and his return ability. He's always been a great athlete but I always thought Prince Amukamara was a better cover corner. That's what I look for in a CB, not their return abilities.

sorthnarolina basically championed PP before the draft to the point where you thought he was going to walk in playing Deion Sanders-level cornerbacking

he hasn't logged in since last july

Link to comment
Share on other sites

hard to disagree with that, but that wasn't the sentiment a lot of people were expressing pre-draft

Yeah, those talking heads. :rolleyes: Them and meteorologists have the best gigs in the world. In any other jobs if you are wrong half as many times as they are, your butt is fired. But they make a career out of being wrong.

Ugh, just a pet peeve. Incidentally, though, I wonder how good Deion Sanders was in coverage at the beginning of his career? I'm not old enough to really know, but since PP's skill set is similar to Deion's as far as ST and position goes, I wonder how their rookie years compare. Was Deion a great corner when he came in, or was he a great punt returner first and the other came later?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ugh, just a pet peeve. Incidentally, though, I wonder how good Deion Sanders was in coverage at the beginning of his career? I'm not old enough to really know, but since PP's skill set is similar to Deion's as far as ST and position goes, I wonder how their rookie years compare. Was Deion a great corner when he came in, or was he a great punt returner first and the other came later?

to put it mildly, Deion Sanders was amazing from day 1. He even juggled being a shut down corner with playing baseball part time.

of course CBs had it easier with the rule changes the past 20 years, but there is zero comparison between the two

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I didn’t realize raheem morris wasn’t calling defensive plays 
    • THIS MIGHT PISS OFF SOME STEVE SMITH SR. FANS:  He WAS detrimental to this team.  Sure, he is on the hall of fame ballot and is probably our best player ever--but he punched 2 teammates--and that is the tip of the glacier.  Remember, I watched him haze and belittle Dwayne Jarrett at an OTA. Jarrett even reacted by giving me a hard hand slap when I mentioned it to him--.  I know bullying when I see it (educator who has written books about trauma caused by abuse and bullying) I have commented on the fact that nobody seemed to be friends with Smith except Kasay.  He was a bully and the coaches allowed it. Bunch of Alpha males chewing the tall grass. Here is a list of all the WRs Steve Smith 'mentored" after they were drafted:  2003: Walter Young 2004: Keary Colbert, Drew Carter 2007: Dwayne Jarrett, Rhyne Robinson 2010: Brandon Lafell,  Armanti Edward, David Gettis 2011: Kealoha Pilares 2012: Joe Adams That is 10 WRs drafted and only 1 had some degree of success, Brandon Lafell, who averaged around 600 yards a season for 8 years in the NFL--it is noteworthy that his numbers increased after leaving Carolina for NE.   This proves nothing, but it is interesting and coincides with the list of free agents we brought in during that time.  My argument:  It is possible that whatever Smith contributed to this team could be a result of bullying others into more diminished roles--Smith called it competition, and in fairness, he was the hardest practicing player I ever watched at OTAs over the years.  But it seems he was Napoleonic in his approach to teammates, possibly damaging the unit and keeping young players from developing--transitioning from college to the pros must be intimidating--especially when an established player is constantly attacking (challenging, to Smith) you as you are trying to learn the plays and culture.  It was so bad when I saw him doing it to Jarrett, it pissed me off.  I think Jarrett was pretty slow and was unsure of the plays etc--it was his rookie OTAs.  This is not proof, just an interesting possibility.  If you have ever had someone at your place of employment with some authority start harassing you, you might understand how a 21-year old kid might feel.
×
×
  • Create New...