Week 12 updated statistics rankings

[TheRealDeal]

I gave him credit for the long ones but the 1 and two yarders don't wow me

[chef17]

What is very clear on this board is the fact that there are those who want to ignore the reality of how bad this team's defense is and believe that if the offense make less mistakes the defense's weakness won't be so obvious. YEAH RIGHT...If one is to apply the logic about turn-overs being a major factor to this team not winning, then shouldn't this team be much higher in the win column than 3-8?

To put things into perspective, Tom Brady is a well seasoned Vet and his TD ratio isn't that much off from Cam's total TD ratio and his turn-overs a just four less. Yet, the Patriots are 8-3 and the Panthers are 3-8.

If a game is won or lose by it's offense, then why every season the defensively stronger team make it to the Superbowl? As great as the Patriots offense were last year, the the Jets got to them at the right time and they were and they were quickly eliminated from the Play-offs. How many turn-overs did Tom have last season that cost their team a chance at th play-off, 4 as was recorded, all season.

If I'm not mistaken, last Superbowl had two of the strongest defensive teams playing against each other and in the end, it was the team who was able to hold off the offense while scoring, that walked away the winner.

Stats may tell a story but the truth is in the pudding.

If you use total TDs then you need to use total turnovers. 28/12 is much better than 22/16