Barely escaping the worst team in the league...

[CRA]

I could buy that, but unfortunately we are still the same team so I still see pretty much the same result.

All that means is we should have a legit shot at winning....as we have had that just about all season.

And that is all I am saying.

Schuab was quietly having a very good year. Yates is going to impact them much greater than would have......negatively.

[mav1234]

You have it completely backwards just like most people and the Carolina Panthers team doesn't operate any different than the rest of the united states sports, or planet earth sports.

A good offense makes a good defense. A bad, inefficient offense creates a defense that gets scored on a lot. Failing to score gives your opponent more scoring chances. Turning over the ball to them and getting stopped gives them more scoring chances. Freebies!

Our offense is ranked 22nd in the most important category: SCORING ABILITY. And that's after moving up 3 spots after beating the Colts.

now make an excuse for the pittsburgh steelers, gogo. they have a lower ypp than we do... but are 8-3 because off... DUN DUN DUN... deefeense!

nevermind that the jets, who are barely holding on to a playoff spot, are 5th in ypp... because as a team they have good scoring efficiency even though their offense is pretty mediocre.

[CRA]

Well yea Houston is different, because if they had Shaub we would lose by 21 points or more now that Johnson is back.

Yeah.....bc teams have blown us out so often this year. Carolina would have competed most likely with Schaub. NOW, they have a shot at winning.

[CRA]

newtonia.....crack kills bro.

[mav1234]

hahah no matter how much you type it won't change the fact our defense blows chunks. no matter how much you say "most nfl defenses are the same" it doesn't make it true.

your argument that a defense giving up 35 points one week and 15 points the next week means all defenses are the same is retarded, because you're expecting all offenses to be the same. the reality is that offense, defense, and special teams varies greatly between teams that ends up having fluctuating scores every game. that's why you don't look at a single game to draw a conclusion about a team as a whole, but if you watch them play you can get a decent idea of the kind of defense it is.

and if you watch the Panthers defense play, you get a pretty damn good idea of what kind of defense it is.

[Marguide]

You have it completely backwards just like most people and the Carolina Panthers team doesn't operate any different than the rest of the united states sports, or planet earth sports.

A good offense makes a good defense. A bad, inefficient offense creates a defense that gets scored on a lot. Failing to score gives your opponent more scoring chances. Turning over the ball to them and getting stopped gives them more scoring chances. Freebies!

Our offense is ranked 22nd in the most important category: SCORING ABILITY. And that's after moving up 3 spots after beating the Colts.

Today's brilliant thoughts by PFFL:

1) All interceptions are the fault of the QB

2) It's our offense's fault that our defense is bad

Do you ever go back and re-read your stuff? Do you realize how idiotic statements like these are?

[King Taharqa]

He doesnt care and doesnt believe what he writes. Hes here to cause confusion and make us pay for giving up on scrub QB Matt Moore. PFFL gets erect over the "underdog" and we took that from him when we dumped him for Cam.

[mav1234]

also lol when you realize the jets are barely winning despite being awesome with scoring effeciency and the steelers are winning frequently despite having poor scoring effeciency, suddenly it isn't the all important stat it was before, and instead turnovers become more important!! you know, turnovers, where the steelers have one less giveaway this season. ONE LESS. One less giveaway does not equate 5 additional wins!

now it's about how our poor defense has miserable field position... you know what, you're right. our special teams blows... but putting that on the offense makes no sense, because we 1) don't punt the ball that much (25th fewest punts in the league), and 2) our defense gives up huge drives no matter where the ball is. watch some games. ball on the 5? np, 95 yard drive. ball on the 20? np, 80 yard drive. do you even watch us play the damn game?

finally, since I just saw that lovely nugget about "scoreless halves," do you know that we average more points in the 3rd and 4th quarter by our offense than we do in the 1st quarter? did you know we average more points in the 4th quarter than we do in the 1st and 3rd? did you know we average less than 2 points more between the halves (12.3 vs 10.6)? no?

didn't think so.

[Kyle82]

we'll have a shot, just like we had a shot in every game we played, doesn't mean I'm optimistic about it happening.

The Texans were also playing a good defense... so I'm not surprised they didn't put up their typical numbers...

The Texans are just one of two teams that the Panthers have never beaten in the regular season.....those bastards even took our Super Bowl bound team down in '03 :mad:

[CRA]

Carolina's offense is 7th in yards per drive, 11th in points per drive, 10 in TDs per drive, 9 th in punts per drive....

D and ST are comically bad......if you don't see that it is bc you choose not to see it.

[CatMan72]

Steelers only beat them by 3, but don't let facts stand in the way of your Panthers (Cam) hate.

[Fox007]

Just don't respond to people like that, not worth anyone's time.

Yeah.....bc teams have blown us out so often this year. Carolina would have competed most likely with Schaub. NOW, they have a shot at winning.

The Texans are the #1 seed in the AFC for a reason, with their regular team they would have creamed us. Now we have a chance, just a very small chance.

[CatMan72]

He doesnt care and doesnt believe what he writes. Hes here to cause confusion and make us pay for giving up on scrub QB Matt Moore. PFFL gets erect over the "underdog" and we took that from him when we dumped him for Cam.

LOL, Moore is doing what he's always done: Playing well when nobody is watching and there's no pressure to make the playoffs.

Pretty sad that in his first game Cam had more poise in the pocket then Moore does as a 5 year vet.

[CatMan72]

So we had a 36/23 minute advantage in time of possession in the Colts game and it's Cam's fault that our defense is "worn down" and giving up points?

Our defense must have been pretty worn out in the 2nd quarter when Donald Brown ran 17 yards untouched for a TD, which was setup by Cap giving up 42 yards on a PI call.