Is Scott Fowler an idiot or am I just crazy?

[Dpantherman]

...For all the numbers he has already achieved early in his career, he has yet to have a signature, game-winning, deep-in-the-fourth-quarter drive.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/11/20/2793066/panthers-newton-still-not-good.html#ixzz1eMMLq600

I specifically remember Cam scoring the game winning touchdown w/ about 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter vs. Jacksonville.

Does it need to be 1 minute left? Or because it was in a monsoon does it not count?

[csx]

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/11/20/2793066/panthers-newton-still-not-good.html#ixzz1eMMLq600

I specifically remember Cam scoring the game winning touchdown w/ about 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter vs. Jacksonville.

Does it need to be 1 minute left? Or because it was in a monsoon does it not count?

He is an idiot, but he did say "deep-in-the-fourth-quarter"

[Snake]

Its sad that all we have is the observer.

[Dpantherman]

He is an idiot, but he did say "deep-in-the-fourth-quarter"

4 minutes isn't deep enough? It was our last possession in the game.

[rayzor]

he had one yesterday.

it's just that the couple minutes left on the clock was more than enough time for the defense to let the lions offense score.

[Dpantherman]

Found it:

Newton had his first fourth-quarter, game-winning touchdown drive Sunday in Carolina's sloppy 16-10 win against Jacksonville.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/09/25/2640015/clutch-cam-trades-stats-for-first.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1eMPsJ0l5

And guess who wrote that?

[carolinarolls]

Cam had a chance to run a 2 min offense down by 7 with the 2 min warning and came out and threw a pick.

I was mad too but I would not roast Cam like Scotty did. It's an argument but not a productive one IMO.

[jtnc]

He's an idiot.

[Mr. Scot]

I can kinda see not counting that one on the basis of time.

What Fowler is looking for (I think) is one of those Jacksonville in 2003 type drives where it comes down to the absolute final seconds and one last play with everything on the line. Basically, the game ends with us on offense, not on defense.

If that's what he's looking for, then no we haven't had that yet. I believe we will at some point, though it may not necessarily be this season.

[King Taharqa]

Fowler is just going with the tide. He knows there are "fans" who smell blood and instinctively want to be hypercritical of our new QB who's been getting all this praise and love this season. This is their chance to voice their displeasure with him, and Fowler is tryna get web hits.

[Dpantherman]

I can kinda see not counting that one on the basis of time.

What Fowler is looking for (I think) is one of those Jacksonville in 2003 type drives where it comes down to the absolute final seconds and one last play with everything on the line. Basically, the game ends with us on offense, not on defense.

If that's what he's looking for, then no we haven't had that yet. I believe we will at some point, though it may not necessarily be this season.

I see the argument as well, but he had not said he was clutch, and called that drive a "4th quarter game winning drive" in his previous article, then claim later in the season he didn't have one, wouldn't be an issue.

He flip-flopped.

[Delhomeboy]

I think he has a point, just not a great one. Fact is, Cam hasn't really had a drive, save in the monsoon, late in the fourth that wins the game. I know the defense let him down yesterday, but that doesn't negate the fact that he did throw a pick on the first play on what probably would have been the final possession of the game, thereby missing a chance to send it to overtime.

That being said, the kid has nine games under his belt, and "not having seen a winning fourth quarter drive" is like me saying that I haven't seen competent math skills from a two-year-old. Body of work is just too tiny.

Plus, this whole argument is total crap when you get down to it...it's similar to Skip saying Aaron's not the best QB in the league simply because he hasn't had a game-winning fourth quarter drive.

[King Taharqa]

I see the argument as well, but he had not said he was clutch, and called that drive a "4th quarter game winning drive" in his previous article, then claim later in the season he didn't have one, wouldn't be an issue.

He flip-flopped.

Vince Young has a gang of 4th quarter game winning drives but Id be willing to bet Fowler doesnt consider him one of the best QBs or even "clutch" for that matter. Probably doesnt even consider him a QB. One day we will have 1 standard for all QBs regardless of race or likeability to be judged by.

[Mr. Scot]

I see the argument as well, but he had not said he was clutch, and called that drive a "4th quarter game winning drive" in his previous article, then claim later in the season he didn't have one, wouldn't be an issue.

He flip-flopped.

It happens (though it shouldn't) :lol:

People need to remember they're still evaluating a rookie. Great rookie? Sure, but still a rookie, and that means next season will likely look loads better than this one.

That's the biggest reason why I don't get all the people flipping out about him having some bad games as we get later in the year. That sort of thing is to be expected.