Cam hasn't taken a step back

[chef17]

Right. I know what it means and you still don't.

:lol: Offensive efficiency- how good an offense is at scoring points without wasting opportunities

So please explain to me how offensive efficiency includes things the offense doesn't do?

[Carl Spackler]

obviously...

What's there to twist about the fact we are 25th in scoring and 30th in allowing someone to score on us?

Obviously your eyeballs can't see that or you wouldn't be talking about anything else considering i can't think of anything that's more important than that when it comes to sports: How good your team is in scoring and allowing points scored.

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He just makes up horsepoo that a defensive player turns into an offensive player when he gets a TD...but they call that defensive scoring...

Offensive efficiency is ONLY measured by the offensive side of the ball...

Team efficiency measures the whole team, hence why he keeps wanting to include defensive and ST scoring but wants to call it "offensive efficiency", but it measures the WHOLE TEAM... so thats it, point blank period, nothing else you can't make up poo to help your argument...

We all know he's clearly wrong, so just let him keep making his new names to come back to say the same wrong poo for everyone to laugh at...

[chef17]

Obviously...

What's there to twist about the fact we are 25th in scoring and 30th in allowing someone to score on us?

Obviously your eyeballs can't see that or you wouldn't be talking about anything else considering I can't think of anything that's more important than that when it comes to sports: how good your team is in scoring and allowing points scored.

So if we are worse in allowing someone to score on us than we are at scoring wouldn't that mean defense is the problem since their job on to stop people from scoring on us?

[chef17]

He just makes up horsepoo that a defensive player turns into an offensive player when he gets a TD...but they call that defensive scoring...

Offensive efficiency is ONLY measured by the offensive side of the ball...

Team efficiency measures the whole team, hence why he keeps wanting to include defensive and ST scoring but wants to call it "offensive efficiency", but it measures the WHOLE TEAM... so thats it, point blank period, nothing else you can't make up poo to help your argument...

We all know he's clearly wrong, so just let him keep making his new names to come back to say the same wrong poo for everyone to laugh at...

I asked how come they don't get receiving yards after an INT since they become offensive players and why they call it defensive TDs instead of offensive TDs. I never got a response :(

[rayzor]

He just makes up horsepoo that a defensive player turns into an offensive player when he gets a TD...but they call that defensive scoring...

Offensive efficiency is ONLY measured by the offensive side of the ball...

Team efficiency measures the whole team, hence why he keeps wanting to include defensive and ST scoring but wants to call it "offensive efficiency", but it measures the WHOLE TEAM... so thats it, point blank period, nothing else you can't make up poo to help your argument...

We all know he's clearly wrong, so just let him keep making his new names to come back to say the same wrong poo for everyone to laugh at...

oops. reported this poster as PFFL.

sorry.:o

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yeah im not PFFL, ive been around these boards for awhile, but don't post that often

[Strobelight]

yeah im not pffl, ive been around these boards for awhile, but don't post that often

Team efficiency measures the whole team, hence why he keeps wanting to include defensive and ST scoring but wants to call it "offensive efficiency", but it measures the WHOLE TEAM... so thats it, point blank period, nothing else you can't make up poo to help your argument

LOL. You just contradicted yourself in the same post just so you don't have to agree with me you know that?

That's exactly what I have been saying. It only measures the efficiency of your team's OFFENSE!

LMFAO!

[Strobelight]

I asked how come they don't get receiving yards after an INT since they become offensive players and why they call it defensive TDs instead of offensive TDs. I never got a response :(

Well maybe if I stopped getting banned you could Chef. My account's been banned like 50 times in the past week.

I have explained that. But you were not around before the accounts get banned and sometimes the posts are removed.

[CRA]

Well maybe if I stopped getting banned you could Chef. My account's been banned like 50 times in the past week.

I have explained that. But you were not around before the accounts get banned and sometimes the posts are removed.

you have been banned 50 times and keep coming back?

you do realize on the interwebs just about anyone who can breath and smash there face against the keyboard is allowed to join and be a member here.......have you ever thought about why only you have been banned so many times. Logic would have to tell you that it isn't reaonable to assume it is b/c you are the only one who speaks the truth......

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LOL. You just contradicted yourself in the same post just so you don't have to agree with me you know that?

That's exactly what I have been saying. It only measures the efficiency of your team's OFFENSE!

LMFAO!

no, you read it wrong, i said that u keep claiming TEAM efficiency as OFFENSE efficiency....you wanna include defense and ST into your "offense" and you can't...it doesn't work that way...so when you say that you are wrong and the only thing you keep posting about is TEAM efficiency...now go get a life kid you live online

[Jangler]

why is this thread still open?

this is all I think about when The PFFL Posse posts...

[rayzor]

watch out for SmittyRocks...might be a new pffl alt.

[SmittyRocks]

no, you read it wrong, i said that u keep claiming TEAM efficiency as OFFENSE efficiency....you wanna include defense and ST into your "offense" and you can't...it doesn't work that way...so when you say that you are wrong and the only thing you keep posting about is TEAM efficiency...now go get a life kid you live online

No I don't. I keep claiming TOTAL OFFENSE SCORING EFFICIENCY, is our team's ability to score points. Which is exactly what yard per point is.

So stop arguing with facts that everyone else in the world knows.

A team's OFFENSE is what's responsible for scoring. In the NFL, that's your actual offense, very rarely your special teams, and every once in awhile your defense.

But mainly, just your offense. And it measures it efficiency by NOT counting special teams yards or yards included by defensive scoring. Because if it did, then it couldn't figure out where field position started or it wouldn't actually measure the difference in efficiency and there would be nothing that makes you more efficient. Just less efficient.

And that's wrong. Because every time you get help by a way of turnover, a score by your special teams, it makes you more efficient. It improves it no? It improves your ability to score points when the special teams and defense pitches in, no?