Cam's a slam for Rookie of the Year

[GritsRgreat]

Most spread rep!!

[nctarheel0619]

Most spread rep!!

Stop riding this dudes nut sack. Seriously.

[jtnc]

Dude what are you smoking? See this is the problem with some of you man. You have no fuging clue what it means to be a real elite veteran versus a damn rookie. You give no freaking credit to experience, learning, refining the position.

AJ and Smith are not even close. And the numbers clearly show. Smith's the #2 receiver in the NFL right now and he's above and beyond even other veteran receivers that have played the game before. AJ isn't even in the top 10. This is what makes Cam Homers like you a laughing stock. You think Cam Newton makes Smith look good. It's pathetic.

And it makes haters like you a damn joke, saying he isn't an efficient passer when he's more efficient than Manning, or Aikman in their rookie years.

[AceMan]

Well, if Cam is so overrated right now...what should our coaching staff do in order for us to get better in the future? :o

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Dude what are you smoking? See this is the problem with some of you man. You have no fuging clue what it means to be a real elite veteran versus a damn rookie. You give no freaking credit to experience, learning, refining the position.

AJ and Smith are not even close. And the numbers clearly show. Smith's the #2 receiver in the NFL right now and he's above and beyond even other veteran receivers that have played the game before. AJ isn't even in the top 10. This is what makes Cam Homers like you a laughing stock. You think Cam Newton makes Smith look good. It's pathetic.

because smith made matt moore and clausen look like all pros too

[pawsandclaws]

I'm not the one that started this topic. And just out of curiosity which one of those guys has a receiver on the level of Steve Smith to throw the ball to their rookie year? Not even Irvin compares to Smith imo.

Marino had 2. Mark Clayton and Mark Duper say hi.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

neither of those guys compare to smitty

but at the same time, without the accuracy of cam's long passes, smitty wouldn't have half the yards

[pawsandclaws]

neither of those guys compare to smitty

but at the same time, without the accuracy of cam's long passes, smitty wouldn't have half the yards

Probably not but my point was he had 2 WR that eventually made 8 pro bowls between them. He wasn't exactly throwing to sisters of the poor.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

part of the reason they made those probowls was marino

he could have made dwayne jarrett look good

[CarolinaSock]

Never be an efficient passer? Yeah you were probably in the same crowd who said he never could make it as an NFL QB. Cam has already has a better completion rating and a TD to int ratio than Manning during his rookie year. Both Manning, Marino and Aikman had turnover problems early in their careers.

They had completion pct% of:

58% (Marino)

60% (Cam)

56% (Manning)

52% (Aikman)

And Dalton has more comeback wins because his defense puts him in that situation, most of the time Cam is not even on the field for long periods of time because the defense can't get a stop.

Finally, if you want to keep talking about this fuging red head who doesn't play for the Carolina Panthers, then be a Bengal fan.

Cam has definitely shown more polish as a passer than I expected but it's simply too hard to compare QB stats from 10+ years ago to today. Just look at completion % across the board today. Cam is at 60% and yet that's just 20th in the league. Manning and Marino actually compared better to their peers than Cam does right now.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

mark clayton was picked in the 8th round, 223rd pick overall

duper was a 2nd round pick, 52 overall

out of the two, i'd take clayton

[pawsandclaws]

part of the reason they made those probowls was marino

he could have made dwayne jarrett look good

No doubt. But I also saw a lot of UNREAL catches by those 2.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

i saw clayton make a few. to be honest i'd forgotten all about duper

but nobody could put it on the spot downfield like marino

[TrueDat]

And it makes haters like you a damn joke, saying he isn't an efficient passer when he's more efficient than Manning, or Aikman in their rookie years.

Uhm..they weren't efficient passers in their rookie years either. They sucked too! And their teams lost too. Most of those guys were all losers in their rookie years too.

And it ain't just completion percentage. There's more to the QB position than that. There's game managing. There's interceptions. There's sacks. There's knowing when to throw a ball away. There's knowing where to pass. There's situational ratings like in Cam's case the 4th quarter when tied or down.

All of those things added up. But yeah in general rookie QB's suck ass. Only Ben and Dalton have been the only ones worth a damn in their rookie years off the top of my head. Manning was total ass and most Colts fans thought he was never going to make it with as many picks as he threw his first year. They all cost their teams winning seasons.

You think the fact that Manning sucked for a whole year as a rookie is the reason he ended up good later? No. That has nothing to do with it. Most rookies need to sit their asses on a bench where they belong for a year until they can come in and win. It sure as hell didn't hurt Brady or Rodgers by sitting down. It made them better.

Neither one of those guys looked like ass in their first years. They sat on the bench, learned the basics, and got put in when they were ready to play.