Should Tebow success get under Cam's skin

[teeray]

Should I keep going??

Rushing yards allowed per game: 28th

Rushing TDs allowed: 32nd

Rushing yards per attempt: 25th

Third down stops: 28th

First down allowed by rush: 27th

Defensive penalty yards: 20th

Defensive TDs: 0 tied for 32nd with only 6 teams

And the really sad thing is most of these numbers have been improving!!!

[BBQ&Beer]

Yes numbers do tell the story.

Carolina Defense:

Yards given up per drive: 30th

Punts forced per drive: 28th

Points given up per drive: 32nd

TDs allowed per drive: 30th

TOs given/forced per drive: 26th

Interceptions per drive: 26th

Fumbles recovered per drive: 14th

Staring field position for defense: 18th (so they haven't had unusually bad field position like you suggest. Just slightly below average so that argument doesn't work)

Drive Success Rate (three and outs): 29th

And lastly the website PFFL himself described as:

Has our offense ranked 8th and our defense ranked 31st.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011/11/team-rankings-week-eleven.html

But that was when he was looking at the wrong year that had our defense at 7 and our offense at 27th.

Once he figured out it was the wrong year he decided it was no longer credible. :rofl:

Wait what?

Really?

[weymouthst]

No way.

Cam knows he is the better QB and football player. The Golden Calf of Bristol is special, but he also has Foxy's pretty good defense too help him win.

Cam makes good plays all game long. The Golden Calf of Bristol waits until the last 2 minutes.

[footballisasport]

Everyone is friends with The Golden Calf of Bristol he's just a straight up good guy.

Do u know him personally or are u judging by perception? Just curious.

[footballisasport]

Has anyone here considered the possibility that The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than Cam? A lot better?

It's bizarre to me that people act like that isn't even a possibility. What evidence is there to make people believe The Golden Calf of Bristol ISN'T better than Cam?Auburn was BUILT for a run first QB like Cam... and his team was built more for SEC success than the Gators even. Auburn BEAT Florida just a couple weeks ago and even WITH The Golden Calf of Bristol the Gators never beat Auburn while The Golden Calf of Bristol was at Florida.. even when Cam was at Florida WITH The Golden Calf of Bristol! The Golden Calf of Bristol lost to Auburn twice in college.

If The Golden Calf of Bristol had been on that Auburn team he would have been even better than Cam because that team was built to suit a running QB.

The whole reason Florida let Cam go in the first place was because Cam was not a good enough passer to fit in Florida's pass heavy offense.

There is an article where Cam's dad said he couldn't even beat out John Brantley as The Golden Calf of Bristol's BACKUP let alone The Golden Calf of Bristol. And look how terrible Brantley has been..

Even this season The Golden Calf of Bristol MIGHT have a better defense than the Panthers but not by much if at all.. And Cam has a much much much better offense than The Golden Calf of Bristol.. who is the best QB Cam has beaten? and this is with Steve Smith who has been carrying him.. and runningbacks The Golden Calf of Bristol could only dream of.. and look at the tight ends Cam has.

The only reason the Panthers offense was so underrated is because of John Fox's horrible offense and The Golden Calf of Bristol is stuck with him and winning more than Cam..

Honestly.. you guys should be very very respectful and thankful of The Golden Calf of Bristol.. because believe it or not 99% of Cam's entire persona he got from The Golden Calf of Bristol.. I kid you not. I watch Cam and I can see all the attributes he is simply copying from The Golden Calf of Bristol. Cam's dad told him to "take notes" behind The Golden Calf of Bristol because he said The Golden Calf of Bristol had earned everything he got.

I don't mean to sound like a troll.. but if I was you guys knowing what I know I would be terrified.. because from what I have seen of Cam he is simply a guy who has been doing a The Golden Calf of Bristol impersonation for the past years and it is becoming more and more transparent and more and more obvious it's phony.

Please post the article.

[PantherFanOne]

this thread makes my balls itch its so stupid.

Hopefully you were born with two hands,so by all means, scratch until your hearts content. :)

[Decleater]

Opposing scores when Orton was QB: 23, 22, 17, 49, 29

Opposing scores when The Golden Calf of Bristol is QB: 15, 45, 24, 10, 17

That defense is the difference between Orton and The Golden Calf of Bristol winning games

When Fox switched from Orton to The Golden Calf of Bristol he went from a run oriented offense to an even MORE run oriented offense with The Golden Calf of Bristol.

The Golden Calf of Bristol allowed this because he makes the runners around him look so good because of his own running ability, which is greater than Cam's. Cam is a more explosive runner against a bad defense if he gets an opening but cam isn't as reliable, dominant or durable a runner.

Using that run game of Tebows to make the runners around him so good allows Fox to play a very very tough ball control defensive game. This ultra slow conservative game MAKES The Golden Calf of Bristol look so bad passing the ball.. as well as the Broncos opponent.

It's like those teams in basketball that slow the game down so much. Teams shoot horribly in those types of games. Fox relying on The Golden Calf of Bristol's dominant run game is like using Shaq or Tim Duncan in the NBA.. The Golden Calf of Bristol is the Shaq of running Qbs..

[Decleater]

Please post the article.

"Was he No. 2 or No. 3? We never really did define that," Cecil said about Cam’s status in the lineup.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/01/exclusive-qb-ca.html

[footballisasport]

No way.

Cam knows he is the better QB and football player. The Golden Calf of Bristol is special, but he also has Foxy's pretty good defense too help him win.

Cam makes good plays all game long. The Golden Calf of Bristol waits until the last 2 minutes.

The Golden Calf of Bristol is a product of our double-minded media. Cam was accused of being a run first QB and was deemed a failure if he wasn't able to sit in the pocket and throw. Run first, is basically all The Golden Calf of Bristol knows how to do. The Broncos defense hold off the other teams until about 6 minutes before the end of the 4th qrt when The Golden Calf of Bristol let's loose and runs..And that is fine with those in the sports media as long as he wins.

I saw the game against the Jets. Tim is a Linebacker who can throw occasionally. I wonder if other teams are going to star treating him like Mike Vick and Cam Newton.

But I will give Fox all the credit for using the team to help minimize Tim's weaknesses while capitalizing on his strengths when it counts.

That's something the Panthers need to learn instead of forcing Cam to do it all to appease fickled minded fans and the media.

[PantherFanOne]

Seriously quit talking to yourself. You look crazy :tongue:

Yeah....That is funny because it is very obvious that statdaddy and Decleater are one and the same. I suppose he has a big ego and just enjoys talking to himself. :)

[chef17]

When Fox switched from Orton to The Golden Calf of Bristol he went from a run oriented offense to an even MORE run oriented offense with The Golden Calf of Bristol.

The Golden Calf of Bristol allowed this because he makes the runners around him look so good because of his own running ability, which is greater than Cam's. Cam is a more explosive runner against a bad defense if he gets an opening but cam isn't as reliable, dominant or durable a runner.

Using that run game of Tebows to make the runners around him so good allows Fox to play a very very tough ball control defensive game. This ultra slow conservative game MAKES The Golden Calf of Bristol look so bad passing the ball.. as well as the Broncos opponent.

It's like those teams in basketball that slow the game down so much. Teams shoot horribly in those types of games. Fox relying on The Golden Calf of Bristol's dominant run game is like using Shaq or Tim Duncan in the NBA.. The Golden Calf of Bristol is the Shaq of running Qbs..

No The Golden Calf of Bristol being inaccurate makes him look so bad passing the ball

[Carl Spackler]

What frustrates me most is I can't just click "ignore" on a PFFL alt, because by the time I've ignored one he's created three more. And with more of his pathetic drivel getting on the board, it's hard to want to look at any Cam-related thread because I know ahead of time I'll see someone who magically joined in November 2011 who has a post with about 8 paragraphs telling me how The Golden Calf of Bristol or Elvis Grbac is better than Cam.

[TheRed]

I was unaware that The Golden Calf of Bristol and Andy Dalton didn't have a special teams or defense. Wow they must be superhumans or something. Learn something new everyday!

[Decleater]

The Golden Calf of Bristol is a product of our double-minded media. Cam was accused of being a run first QB and was deemed a failure if he wasn't able to sit in the pocket and throw. Run first, is basically all The Golden Calf of Bristol knows how to do. The Broncos defense hold off the other teams until about 6 minutes before the end of the 4th qrt when The Golden Calf of Bristol let's loose and runs..And that is fine with those in the sports media as long as he wins.

This is just not true.. The Golden Calf of Bristol's team has more talent on defense.. Cam's team has more talent on offense.

If The Golden Calf of Bristol as on Cam's team in Cam's position he would be winning with his offense and passing..

The Broncos do not have good runners or receivers around The Golden Calf of Bristol. It is The Golden Calf of Bristol's ability to run an offense so well and his own run ability that makes his runners look so good.

If Cam was on the Brconos he would be losing these defensive battles just like he is on the Panthers in higher scoring games.

I am telling you.. Kyle Orton put up big numbers just like Cam when the Broncos were trying to play an uptempo offense. check his numbers.. he was contesting Dan Marino numbers just like Cam. But just like Cam his run game was hurt badly and so was his defense. But look where Orton is with his hollow numbers.. on the bench behind The Golden Calf of Bristol with an atrocious win loss record. Also, just like Orotn Cam turns the ball over a ton.. inefficient.

I saw the game against the Jets. Tim is a Linebacker who can throw occasionally. I wonder if other teams are going to star treating him like Mike Vick and Cam Newton.

Just because The Golden Calf of Bristol doesn't rely on his passing very much doesn't mean he can't pass. I have seen The Golden Calf of Bristol make much more impressive clutch passes when he had to than Cam.. and The Golden Calf of Bristol doesn't turn the ball over anywhere near what cam does and The Golden Calf of Bristol doesn't have Cam's runners or receivers.

But I will give Fox all the credit for using the team to help minimize Tim's weaknesses while capitalizing on his strengths when it counts.

The ability to dominate the running game is not a weaknesses.. it is the foundation of football. Do you think the Broncos would be able to run the ball the way they do if The Golden Calf of Bristol wasn't a threat to pass the ball? If you do you don't understand football.

That's something the Panthers need to learn instead of forcing Cam to do it all to appease fickled minded fans and the media.

This is what you aren't getting though. if Cam was on the Broncos with The Golden Calf of Bristol's offense he would look far worse than The Golden Calf of Bristol and would be losing.. or he would pass more and have more interceptions and be posing..