Should Tebow success get under Cam's skin

[chef17]

Have you looked at Ben lately? Ben isn't fast.

When he came in:

Lately...

To me a dual rush QB doesn't just mean run for lots of yards. It also means scrambling while passing and passing out of poor foot stances. He does the same type of stupid poo Bret Farve or McNabb does. They liked to take on defenders because they're bigger, and throw it up, often times off the backfoot or on the run while getting their asses pummeled, or held, or dragged.

And Ben's actually a pretty decent passer and QB compared to them. He's definitely a better leader on the field. He's definitely the smarter of the bunch too, imo. Farve played for like 68 years and still has no idea what makes a good passer. Still never learned the basics. No discipline at all.

So scrambling around while PASSING makes you a dual RUSHING QB? That makes no sense at all.

[chef17]

Really? Because last season Kyle Orton put up Dan Marino-esque numbers in Josh McDaniels system.. and people said the exact same thing about Orton over The Golden Calf of Bristol you are saying now about Cam being much better than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

In McDaniels much more prolific offense it made the Broncos D look terrible and the run game stunk.. but Orton couldn't win a game.. sound familiar?

This season Fox takes over, runs the same slow down offense he ran with the Panthers and all a sudden the D starts improving but Orton's numbers go in the tank and he can't win a game to save his life.

Cam has faced horrible teams to start the season and the lockout defenses have helped him tremendously and he still can't win.

Opposing scores when Orton was QB: 23, 22, 17, 49, 29

Opposing scores when The Golden Calf of Bristol is QB: 15, 45, 24, 10, 17

That defense is the difference between Orton and The Golden Calf of Bristol winning games

[chef17]

They punted 8 times Thursday. That is missing a lot of opportunities.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

it isn't about The Golden Calf of Bristol winning and newton not....it's about foxball working despite it being a "passing league".

...and a lot of people can't stand it.

[Jangler]

So in 8 games The Golden Calf of Bristol is up to Delhomme stature? that is an accomplishment.

[King Taharqa]

Lol@alts talking to themselves. PFFL and crew have created that "Kool-Aid party" I was talkin bout to take their football team back. LOL.

[Jangler]

I was supposed to read it word for word?

[Jangler]

Rivera has no clue about what makes a good offense and is letting Chud just experiment with whatever the hell he wants. What do you expect? I really think our head coach right now, is Chud and Cam. One of the two, not sure which. But it's one of those two. Could be Hurney as well. It's like we're fuging playing baseball.

I have no problem with a defensive head coach letting the OC have the control. That is what we had been complaining about for 5 years with Fox.

now give me a 2500 word essay on why I'm wrong

[CatMan72]

Nope, if anything Cam's success should get under The Golden Calf of Bristol's skin.

[King Taharqa]

Nope, if anything Cam's success should get under The Golden Calf of Bristol's skin.

Cam's success has most notably gotten under TheRealDeal, PFFL, and Sylvianlights skin. 3 dissenters (who all still dickride Matt Moore) compared to hundreds of thousands of supporters and believers on this board and in the real world. Only a tiny lunatic fringe of our fanbase doesnt like Newton.

[Panthers128]

Fact is if The Golden Calf of Bristol was as bad as you guys say they simply wouldn't be winning games. He might be bad at a lot of things but the kid can read defenses and is the master of the option. Also he steps up in the clutch and he's a guy his teammates absolutely believe in.

Cam's success is statistics and they've been free falling lately.

You'll find me, TheRealDeal, PFFL, and GritsRGreat will praise Cam when he does well and are generally optimistic about him but not so much the coaching staff. Where as people like King Tahara have a grudge against former players, coaches and other rookie players in the NFL for some reason.

[Udogg]

has anyone here considered the possibility that The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than cam? A lot better?

It's bizarre to me that people act like that isn't even a possibility. What evidence is there to make people believe The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't better than cam?

Auburn was built for a run first qb like cam... And his team was built more for sec success than the gators even. Auburn beat florida just a couple weeks ago and even with The Golden Calf of Bristol the gators never beat auburn while The Golden Calf of Bristol was at florida.. Even when cam was at florida with The Golden Calf of Bristol! The Golden Calf of Bristol lost to auburn twice in college.

If The Golden Calf of Bristol had been on that auburn team he would have been even better than cam because that team was built to suit a running qb.

The whole reason florida let cam go in the first place was because cam was not a good enough passer to fit in florida's pass heavy offense.

There is an article where cam's dad said he couldn't even beat out john brantley as The Golden Calf of Bristol's backup let alone The Golden Calf of Bristol. And look how terrible brantley has been..

Even this season The Golden Calf of Bristol might have a better defense than the panthers but not by much if at all.. And cam has a much much much better offense than The Golden Calf of Bristol.. Who is the best qb cam has beaten? And this is with steve smith who has been carrying him.. And runningbacks The Golden Calf of Bristol could only dream of.. And look at the tight ends cam has.

The only reason the panthers offense was so underrated is because of john fox's horrible offense and The Golden Calf of Bristol is stuck with him and winning more than cam..

Honestly.. You guys should be very very respectful and thankful of The Golden Calf of Bristol.. Because believe it or not 99% of cam's entire persona he got from The Golden Calf of Bristol.. I kid you not. I watch cam and i can see all the attributes he is simply copying from The Golden Calf of Bristol. Cam's dad told him to "take notes" behind The Golden Calf of Bristol because he said The Golden Calf of Bristol had earned everything he got.

I don't mean to sound like a troll.. But if i was you guys knowing what i know i would be terrified.. Because from what i have seen of cam he is simply a guy who has been doing a The Golden Calf of Bristol impersonation for the past years and it is becoming more and more transparent and more and more obvious it's phony.

rofl

[DawgzLife]

Your idea of success in Football and mine are two different things. The sad part: so is Cam Newton's. Just not his homers. Even he knows this don't look good.

What?! How do you attribute the losses to Cam? I think you ned to consider the fact the Rivera, our DC & ST coach are killing this team. Cam & our OC, + Smitty & the RBs have been the only reason we have been IN games. They are the reason this team has not been considered a luaghing-stock (which may be changing b/c of Rivera the aforementioned group). Edit: TEs too.

Is it really so hard to admit that Cam is 1 of the best rookie QBs ever? If you could have The Golden Calf of Bristol or Cam looking to get you a 3rd & long for the game, who would you choose? The titans game was hopefully an aberration, but in years past, 3rd & longs gave me ulcers, now I am confident Cam will usually find a way to get a 3rd down conversion. Not sure how you can hate on Cam & support the Panthers. The Golden Calf of Bristol is a limited Qb at this stage of his career. I think he's a great person, but just not in the same category as Cam in terms of NFL skillset. A good coach covers their players weaknesses (our D, STs, etc.), Rivera is doing nothing of the sort.

[BBQ&Beer]

Has anyone here considered the possibility that The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than Cam? A lot better?

It's bizarre to me that people act like that isn't even a possibility. What evidence is there to make people believe The Golden Calf of Bristol ISN'T better than Cam?

Auburn was BUILT for a run first QB like Cam... and his team was built more for SEC success than the Gators even. Auburn BEAT Florida just a couple weeks ago and even WITH The Golden Calf of Bristol the Gators never beat Auburn while The Golden Calf of Bristol was at Florida.. even when Cam was at Florida WITH The Golden Calf of Bristol! The Golden Calf of Bristol lost to Auburn twice in college.

If The Golden Calf of Bristol had been on that Auburn team he would have been even better than Cam because that team was built to suit a running QB.

The whole reason Florida let Cam go in the first place was because Cam was not a good enough passer to fit in Florida's pass heavy offense.

There is an article where Cam's dad said he couldn't even beat out John Brantley as The Golden Calf of Bristol's BACKUP let alone The Golden Calf of Bristol. And look how terrible Brantley has been..

Even this season The Golden Calf of Bristol MIGHT have a better defense than the Panthers but not by much if at all.. And Cam has a much much much better offense than The Golden Calf of Bristol.. who is the best QB Cam has beaten? and this is with Steve Smith who has been carrying him.. and runningbacks The Golden Calf of Bristol could only dream of.. and look at the tight ends Cam has.

The only reason the Panthers offense was so underrated is because of John Fox's horrible offense and The Golden Calf of Bristol is stuck with him and winning more than Cam..

Honestly.. you guys should be very very respectful and thankful of The Golden Calf of Bristol.. because believe it or not 99% of Cam's entire persona he got from The Golden Calf of Bristol.. I kid you not. I watch Cam and I can see all the attributes he is simply copying from The Golden Calf of Bristol. Cam's dad told him to "take notes" behind The Golden Calf of Bristol because he said The Golden Calf of Bristol had earned everything he got.

I don't mean to sound like a troll.. but if I was you guys knowing what I know I would be terrified.. because from what I have seen of Cam he is simply a guy who has been doing a The Golden Calf of Bristol impersonation for the past years and it is becoming more and more transparent and more and more obvious it's phony.

No.