Supercam!

[CatMan72]

The large print I ordered of this picture got me a signed jersey... was @ practice the other day and Cam wasn't signing anything for anybody, just walking right by. Showed him the poster-sized print of this pic and he loved it - gave him a copy and he agreed to sign my jersey.

Folks paid $110 to attend a signing on Monday, I paid $10 for this poster and got the same result... LOL

[rayzor]

The large print I ordered of this picture got me a signed jersey... was @ practice the other day and Cam wasn't signing anything for anybody, just walking right by. Showed him the poster-sized print of this pic and he loved it - gave him a copy and he agreed to sign my jersey.

Folks paid $110 to attend a signing on Monday, I paid $10 for this poster and got the same result... LOL

you're doing it right.

i think you've always done that, though...giving players something that could be a little special to them rather than just demanding their attention and autograph.

[CatMan72]

you're doing it right.

i think you've always done that, though...giving players something that could be a little special to them rather than just demanding their attention and autograph.

Yup, I've found the trick is to offer them something unique in exchange for an autograph and I've had great success with this approach - plus it just feels like the right thing to do.

If I'm bringing a cool picture to get signed, I bring them a copy as well, etc... I also make a point of being very gracious when they say no or ignore me, I've seen grown men throw a total hissy-fit when they don't get an autograph and curse a guy out within earshot which I find totally ridiculous and embarrassing. Folks that act like this ruin it for everyone else, I can see why guys get jaded and decide not to sign anything for anyone.

I don't feel like they're obligated in any way to sign anything. They're obligated to prepare all week to the best of their ability and then show up on Sunday and give 110% to help the Panthers win, anything they choose to do beyond that is totally up to them.

[CatMan72]

...funny related story:

A guy out at the practice field was yelling: "CAM! CAM! CAM!" as Cam walked by no farther then 5 feet from him, literally YELLING like he was calling his dog.

Cam stopped and looked at him and said: "What's your name?" the guy said: "Frank" then Cam yelled: "FRANK! FRANK! FRANK!" and then signed the guy's mini-helmet and kept moving.

It's a funny story, but it's idiots like this that ruin it for everyone and with the increase in stupidity like this that I've noticed with Cam's arrival (along with several full-fledged professional autograph hounds who are there EVERY DAY that I've never seen before) it may soon reach a point where the Panthers totally deny access to practices, which would be a real shame for the real fans like myself who know how to behave and are there to connect with the team, not make money off them.

[NCballerx88]

I understand why Fortitude Graphics is taking heat for his Photoshop creation, but I am not entirely sure it can be considered a rip-off. I believe that if the patent for the original Superman drawing has expired then anyone can take that drawing and alter it. Personally, I have no problem with what Fortitude Graphics has done because he said it was a Photoshop and he would be doing a canvas painting of it, which would then make it original work no matter who inspired it. However I do believe that an original drawing of Cam, wearing a suit and opening his shirt to reveal his jersey, between the Panthers statues (or beside one of the statues) with the stadium or the skyline of Charlotte as a backdrop would be a print I most definitely would buy.

[FortitudeGraphics]

I understand why Fortitude Graphics is taking heat for his Photoshop creation, but I am not entirely sure it can be considered a rip-off. I believe that if the patent for the original Superman drawing has expired then anyone can take that drawing and alter it. Personally, I have no problem with what Fortitude Graphics has done because he said it was a Photoshop and he would be doing a canvas painting of it, which would then make it original work no matter who inspired it. However I do believe that an original drawing of Cam, wearing a suit and opening his shirt to reveal his jersey, between the Panthers statues (or beside one of the statues) with the stadium or the skyline of Charlotte as a backdrop would be a print I most definitely would buy.

I appreciate the kindness man. I understand where everyone is coming from in this case. The technicalities of this picture is wishy washy because technically the way I put this together wouldn't violate any copyright laws if there were any. But morally I feel horrible because they are right and I used part of someone else's work as a platform and its just laziness on my part when I could have just created the whole suit from scratch. Either way I learned a lot from this and will move forward with a 100% original painting. Also whoever bought the poster from me will get the new one for free when its done. Here is the vid I posted earlier on the progress just so people can see how its being created

[mmmbeans]

how is that not a violation of copyright law?

[NCballerx88]

how is that not a violation of copyright law?

I may be incorrect in this, but I believe it's because the image was altered (taking out Clark Kent and putting in Cam) and placing his image into the foreground of the work. It is like a DJ taking an artist singing and placing those lyrics over the music from another song; which I believe can be sold without legal ramifications as well.

[Panic]

[mmmbeans]

I may be incorrect in this, but I believe it's because the image was altered (taking out Clark Kent and putting in Cam) and placing his image into the foreground of the work. It is like a DJ taking an artist singing and placing those lyrics over the music from another song; which I believe can be sold without legal ramifications as well.

no f*cking way... taking someone else's painting and putting a different head on it does not constitute fair use.

[Fan01]

It is like a DJ taking an artist singing and placing those lyrics over the music from another song; which I believe can be sold without legal ramifications as well.

Ask Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer how that worked out.

[FortitudeGraphics]

I didn't just cut and paste... I didn't add any filters to it... I traced, warped, smudged the colors onto separate layers and then deleted the original picture. Every single brush stroke on the original suit picture is different on my version. The outline is slightly different but the actual image is so big you can't tell with the naked eye that its different. But every thing is very different in close detail. The background is my own picture and done the same way. I did the clouds from scratch. I shouldn't have done it this way anyway, I had no idea it would be so popular lol. I easily could just take a picture of me wearing a suit and do the same thing to it. But yea anyways, as much as it may look like i just used someone elses work, technically I didn't. If you can find me that clark kent picture thats 5000x8240 then you might have a case. Otherwise take the biggest one you find and blow it up to 5000x8240 and let me know how it looks. Besides if you had the image file that I have been printing on a flash drive, go get it printed 22x36, pay ebays selling charge, pay paypals taxes, and tell me how much I'm making off of each one.

[TheRealDeal]

Anyone else think the title of this thread is super ghey?

[mmmbeans]

I didn't just cut and paste... I didn't add any filters to it... I traced, warped, smudged the colors onto separate layers and then deleted the original picture. Every single brush stroke on the original suit picture is different on my version. The outline is slightly different but the actual image is so big you can't tell with the naked eye that its different. But every thing is very different in close detail. The background is my own picture and done the same way. I did the clouds from scratch. I shouldn't have done it this way anyway, I had no idea it would be so popular lol. I easily could just take a picture of me wearing a suit and do the same thing to it. But yea anyways, as much as it may look like i just used someone elses work, technically I didn't. If you can find me that clark kent picture thats 5000x8240 then you might have a case. Otherwise take the biggest one you find and blow it up to 5000x8240 and let me know how it looks. Besides if you had the image file that I have been printing on a flash drive, go get it printed 22x36, pay ebays selling charge, pay paypals taxes, and tell me how much I'm making off of each one.

dude... just stop. you traced it so it's yours?