Dan Connor

[CatMan72]

OK, I was talking to boo about this exact thing yesterday... take a look at it.

The video is here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d8240fc2b/D-Titans-79-yd-punt-return-TD

Connor makes a bee-line down the side line... that leads me to believe that he had responsibility for that side line.

Note the giant hole in coverage BEHIND Connor...

Connor is circled in blue, our two cover guys in red are being blocked and the two guys in orange are too far away.

In the next second...

Connor is running full out, and has to stop and change direction 90 degrees to hit the guy... I doubt there are many players that can do that. If Connor is guilty of anything it's being out of position, but again, I think he had sideline responsibility and was counting on the other guys to cover inside. He probably should have angled away from the sideline a bit towards the returner as he was catching the ball and force him to the outside.

The problem looks to me just like really, really poor coverage. Look at that giant hole behind Connor.

Also, maybe Baker didn't get the punt high enough... he kicked it roughly 60 yards which is a pretty damn good punt, but you've got to kick it high enough to give the coverage guys time... it's honestly hard to say from the video. Based on my calculations, it was roughly 4.5 seconds of hang time... which I believe is about average.

Overall, I think the issue is with the coverage team, not with Baker... and it wasn't Connor all by himself... they just didn't cover it as a team worth a crap.

He was trying to push the guy back inside which would have worked if Munnerlyn wasn't being held by two guys. In the game pass replay, you can see Munnerlyn being held as clear as day... it's absurd that we didn't get a call on that.

[Fiz]

[Swarly]

40 time =/= game speed

didn't fitz run a 4.6 40?

[Brosiden]

Dan connor suck. nuff said. only reason hes there is because of davis and beason not playing. Cant wait for him to get out

[BombzAway]

He is slow, this is no secret. Connor is not a speed LB. Connor is a ball sniffer, meaning it is really hard to deceive him and although he will be going a mile per hour he will be going towards the ball. For a linebacker, this skill is more important than speed, at least in our scheme. Connor can also tackle for the most part. Lastly you have to remember Connor is not physically gifted. He is not fast or tall and his strength is average.

You can tell he plays with desire. This combined with his excellent reading skills he makes a very decent linebacker. I'll have to agree however if it's a matter of Connor 'gettin there', it's as good as gone and Connor in coverage is just silly.

Wat? :confused:

[panthers55]

Lol oh my god 40 time and bench press.

Quick tell us his 5 k and how much he can curl for all the difference it makes.

Like you have to be stupid as fug, never lifted a weight in your life, or both if you think bench press is an accurate predictor of anything besides what you can bench press.

I could stoop to your level but unlike you, I don't need to insult others to gain credibility. The bench press is a combine measure which allows for comparison between players with different metrics, experience and competition level. Is it not appropriate as an absolute measure but is totally appropriate when used for comparison purposes. As someone who lifted weights for a number of years I can assuredly tell you that it is used in weighlifting for comparison purposes and bragging rights. Because it uses a number of complementary muscle groups is does measure upper body strength fairly well just like squats measure lower body strength. Could you use other measures? Of course you could and they would be valid as well. But given that this has been a constant for years, it offers both immediate and longitudinal comparisons as well.

[panthers55]

Theres a few good things about it. Cone drills for running backs are really good indicators.

Things like jumping straight in the air and running in opposed in a straight line do nothing at all.

Drafting based on the combine is how the jets select Vernon gholston.

But bench press is the dumbest lift in the world unless you're a bro working out in a cutoff polo shirt.

The indicators were picked by football experts based on what they need to know about the players they are drafting. What makes you think you have know better than them what information is best to collect. If they didn't think the bench press was important it wouldn't be used. I love how guys who have likely never played football at any level suddenly think they are an expert because they can join a message board and type.

[Fiz]

whelp you see here durp de durp the bench uses the triceps and connor has comparable strength to beason because ffffffffffff jesus shut up you old idiot

[YoungPanthers89]

Dan connor suck. nuff said. only reason hes there is because of davis and beason not playing. Cant wait for him to get out

This should be on the front page of the huddle

[panthers55]

And how often does dans ability to run 40 yards in a straight line from a crouch ever come in to play on defense?

Oh wait never at all great job panthers55 keep lowering the bar.

Again your lack of logic and football knowledge are showing again. How does an SAT score equate to taking a final in advanced physics in college? So why would you use it as an indicator of college success. Because it allows you to compare potential college students with different backgrounds, classroom experiences from different educational settings. The same with the 40 yard dash.

Why don't you know such an elementary concept? I guess they didn't teach logic in acting school.

[panthers55]

whelp you see here durp de durp the bench uses the triceps and connor has comparable strength to beason because ffffffffffff jesus shut up you old idiot

Again with the insults. I guess when you have little else to argue you can always resort to your favorite tactic. So predictable and pathetic. Why not grow up and act like an adult instead of persist with your usual middle school tactics.

[HeatCheck]

SATs, in my eyes, are overrated. It's an okay barometer by my brother got better grades then me in HS and now in college but tested worse on his SATs.

One test vs the body of work in HS. It's kinda like combine vs body of work in CFB. I'd much rather judge someone on what they do in college and how that translates than a test of speed, strength, and agility. Do those things matter, yes. Do they help, yes. But they don't tell the whole story and don't always translate.

[panthers55]

SATs, in my eyes, are overrated. It's an okay barometer by my brother got better grades then me in HS and now in college but tested worse on his SATs.

One test vs the body of work in HS. It's kinda like combine vs body of work in CFB. I'd much rather judge someone on what they do in college and how that translates than a test of speed, strength, and agility. Do those things matter, yes. Do they help, yes. But they don't tell the whole story and don't always translate.

Of course SATs shouldn't be used as a complete evaluation but rather in the context of a whole body of work. But for example if two people have similar grades and standing but one has a much higher SAT score than the other, it allows you to make a differential comparison. Or for example if one student has a much higher grade point average because they had access to AP courses while another didn't but the students without AP courses scores higher on the SAT, it helps to level the playing field.

Obviously combine numbers have to be evaluated similarly. Not as a complete evaluation but as grist for the mill to compare different athletes who may play at different levels of competition or played different years.

[Miaoww]

"fine in run defense"

So when they run stretch plays and Dan gets caught up in traffic and is ten yards away from making a tackle it's because he's a fine run defender?

God I hate this place.

We're not too fond of you either.