Who Do We Trade Next Year (To relieve cap space)?

[AceMan]

All will be back next year

I say J-Stew though. We'll get the most for him...

[Matthias]

I have an honest question for many of you. How much do you guys think we would get in return for Steve Smith or Chris Gamble? These two guys contracts are eating up a lot of the cap space for next year. I love them both, but if we can get valuable compensation, we would be knocking out two birds with one stone.

I wonder if the Texans would be willing to give a 1st rounder for Smitty straight up? And with Gamble, perhaps two 2nd rounders.

[SOJA]

No way we trade Chris Gamble, however a restructure of his deal is imminent

[Mr. Scot]

I love DeAngelo, but we just don't need a 2-headed rushing attack anymore and Stewart is younger/has proven to be the more efficient back... so we should try to trade DeAngelo.

Gotta disagree with you there on the approach.

I very much prefer the "two headed monster" type of backfield.

[SteveSmithTD89]

I have an honest question for many of you. How much do you guys think we would get in return for Steve Smith or Chris Gamble? These two guys contracts are eating up a lot of the cap space for next year. I love them both, but if we can get valuable compensation, we would be knocking out two birds with one stone.

I wonder if the Texans would be willing to give a 1st rounder for Smitty straight up? And with Gamble, perhaps two 2nd rounders.

hahahah are you serious? There is no way in hell anybody would trade a 1st round pick for a 30 year old receiver. Its just not going to happen. And two seconds for gamble? lol, this isn't madden. The most either would garner would be a 3rd. More than likely a 4th.

[Matthias]

hahahah are you serious? There is no way in hell anybody would trade a 1st round pick for a 30 year old receiver. Its just not going to happen. And two seconds for gamble? lol, this isn't madden. The most either would garner would be a 3rd. More than likely a 4th.

I disagree. If Smitty continues on this record breaking season, and Gamble continues to build his numbers (particularly in pass defenses and ints), I believe teams who are looking for that last piece will be willing to give up something for them. The Texans don't need many pieces, so they are willing to give up a high draft pick for what they would consider an icing on the cake. (Steve Smith) Another team may become fascinated with Gamble, and we know CBs can play in the league well into their 30s.

[Kettle]

how does anyone know what the cap number is?

[Stumpy]

Or maybe, and I know this is a novel idea, we could do like every other team in the NFL does when you are tight against the cap; cut dead weight and extend good players to reduce their hit and keep them around.

Martin - gone

Captain - gone

Otah - gone

Nanee - gone

Teh Jimmer - gone

Armanti - gone

Goodson - gone

Pugh - gone

Brockel - gone

Hartsock - gone

Mare - gone

Baker - gone

Ideally, restructure Deangelo's deal.(Though no agent in their right mind would agree to that after 1 season.)

Extend Smitty, Gamble and possibly Gross.

I'm on my phone right now so I can't pull up the numbers and structures of the deals, but I'd be willing to bet these moves would go a long way towards freeing up some room.

[Cyberjag]

No one. Hurney knows what he's doing, I'm not worried about it.

This.

People criticize Hurney all the time for his personnel decisions, but I've never heard anything bad about his ability to manage the cap. Granted, some of the decisions he's made to do so have come under fire (extending Delhomme into an uncapped year comes to mind), but overall he's really good at cap management.

[SteveSmithTD89]

I disagree. If Smitty continues on this record breaking season, and Gamble continues to build his numbers (particularly in pass defenses and ints), I believe teams who are looking for that last piece will be willing to give up something for them. The Texans don't need many pieces, so they are willing to give up a high draft pick for what they would consider an icing on the cake. (Steve Smith) Another team may become fascinated with Gamble, and we know CBs can play in the league well into their 30s.

Its just not gonna happen man. If Brandon Marshall barely into his prime only garnered a 2nd. Smith is not going to get a first. With the way draft picks (especially day 1 picks) are valued these days I don't see any team giving them up for players who are well into their prime and could begin to decline in the coming years.

[Urrymonster]

Our best trading gem is J-Stew, but I definitely don't want to get rid of him. Steve Smith has shown he is still a great receiver, and if we ever thought about trading him, next year is our last opportunity. (I hate to see it happen, but trading Smith would definitely relieve our cap space) Gamble is also a guy that we could trade to bring in value, and at the same time relieve cap space. If Mario Williams became available through free agency, Greg Hardy would someone we could use in trade bait. (If we sign Williams)

Because trading Hardy's 5th round contract will make up for the multi million deal Williams would receive...wow

[Urrymonster]

Or maybe, and I know this is a novel idea, we could do like every other team in the NFL does when you are tight against the cap; cut dead weight and extend good players to reduce their hit and keep them around.

Martin - gone

Captain - gone

Otah - gone

Nanee - gone

Teh Jimmer - gone

Armanti - gone

Goodson - gone

Pugh - gone

Brockel - gone

Hartsock - gone

Mare - gone

Baker - gone

Ideally, restructure Deangelo's deal.(Though no agent in their right mind would agree to that after 1 season.)

Extend Smitty, Gamble and possibly Gross.

I'm on my phone right now so I can't pull up the numbers and structures of the deals, but I'd be willing to bet these moves would go a long way towards freeing up some room.

Well done you've shaved a couple of million off the cap, now actually look at players who aren't playing at or close to the league minimum.

These players you want to cut have to be replaced and you can't get much cheaper.

[Urrymonster]

I disagree. If Smitty continues on this record breaking season, and Gamble continues to build his numbers (particularly in pass defenses and ints), I believe teams who are looking for that last piece will be willing to give up something for them. The Texans don't need many pieces, so they are willing to give up a high draft pick for what they would consider an icing on the cake. (Steve Smith) Another team may become fascinated with Gamble, and we know CBs can play in the league well into their 30s.

It isn't record breaking and look at Randy Moss as an example. Wow, he was expensive. Hang on, Smith comes with less baggage...no wait...

Smith would be tops a 3rd, his age just drags down his value. Gamble wouldn't be that great compensation. DeAngelo Hall was the first CB that came to mind and he was a 2nd rounder. Issue was he was younger and went to the Raiders, so his value was inflated somewhat.

[Seltzer]

I don't understand why people spend time on stuff like this.

As long as the Panthers are under the cap, who gives a crap about who is making what. Knock Hurney all you want, but he started as a salary cap guy and has always managed it well.

The only year the Panthers were in a bind was in 2009 which led to the bad delhomme deal. The Panthers cleaned the books the last 2 years and have locked up their core guys.

And while the DeAngelo deal looks bad given the lack of carries, people would be up in arms in Stewart went down and we didn't have another great back. And Goodson isn't in D-lo's league.

I want Richardson to spend money. I spend a lot of mine every year to go to games. Who cares if some money goes to guys that don't earn it. I could care less as long as it doesn't hurt signing players, which I doubt it will.

Why would anyone want to trade Gamble, Smitty, or Otah? I'm expecting them to be contributors on next year's team. This is the rebuilding year, not next year.

You don't get better cutting talent. And a lot of the other guys are basically min wage and interchangeable.

I dont want them to cut/ trade anyone except for performance reasons or if it's going to make the team better. The cap is not an issue