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DeAngelo Williams


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i still can't believe we re-signed him to the contract he got...way to go marty...we keep our core even when it makes no sense

Well said. I'm all for keeping our core players and locking them up long term but H seems to lack the intuitive ability to see how the big picture comes together. The Pats let go quality players when the time is right for the team. Even after JR cleaned house and reset our cap situation, we spent big money quickly and got back in a tough cap situation.

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When a team restructures a contract they typically convert the salary to a signing bonus which stretches out that salary over the remainder of his contract reducing his hit for that year. How exactly would you do that when his contract was half guaranteed money and signing bonuses and the rest salary. 5.3 million of his 2012 salary is guaranteed as well. So the whole notion to restructure him is plain stupid and underpins my contention that when most people on here talk about salary caps and what they would due to fit things under the cap, 9 times out of ten they don't have a clue.

If we release him all the guaranteed money just accelerates and creates a huge dead cap hit taken over 1 or 2 years depending on when we cut him.

So no we don't trade, release or restructure him. We live with the contract and work to intergrate him more into the offense.

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When a team restructures a contract they typically convert the salary to a signing bonus which stretches out that salary over the remainder of his contract reducing his hit for that year. How exactly would you do that when his contract was half guaranteed money and signing bonuses and the rest salary. 5.3 million of his 2012 salary is guaranteed as well. So the whole notion to restructure him is plain stupid and underpins my contention that when most people on here talk about salary caps and what they would due to fit things under the cap, 9 times out of ten they don't have a clue.

If we release him all the guaranteed money just accelerates and creates a huge dead cap hit taken over 1 or 2 years depending on when we cut him.

So no we don't trade, release or restructure him. We live with the contract and work to intergrate him more into the offense.

it couldn't be stupid if it's based on ignorance to the situation.. what would be stupid is Hurney, a capologist, signing him to that contract..

well damn, I was hoping the option to restructure was in the deck of cards..

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Marty Hurney should be done after this year and the ridiculous FA we had so the new GM can decide what to do with Deangelo. I would imagine that he would be either restructured or released before we take the massive hit that his contract will deliver (IDK when that is).

We need to get someone in here to run this team though or else we are going to squander an incredible foundation in Cam Newton.

We are a few moves away from being a playoff team and I personally don't trust Marty Hurney to make those decisions anymore.

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it couldn't be stupid if it's based on ignorance to the situation.. what would be stupid is Hurney, a capologist, signing him to that contract..

well damn, I was hoping the option to restructure was in the deck of cards..

The contract isn't crazy if we had used him as predicted. How would Hurney know that Cam was going to be two years ahead of where people predicted at this point. Given that we have needed 2 backs every year for the past 4 it made sense to sign him. In retrospect it might have been a mistake but unfortunately you don't know that until after you have acted not before.

You could restructure his contract and turn the 5 million guaranteed money into a signing bonus which is also guaranteed and space it out over the 4 years which would reduce the cap hit by 3.75 million. But it increases the later cap hits and likely dead cap space if we release him before the contract expires.

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btw this is the first time in DeAngelo's career (memphis included) he hasn't run behind a fullback and imho that's been the main culprit.

Jonathan is a more naturally talented back than DeAngelo and has managed to thrive running out of the backfield in 4/3 WR sets. He's also a much better blocker.

Basically the Panthers resigned DeAngelo without realizing they weren't going to need him anymore.

It was a failure at literally every single level of the scouting/management/coaching department but it's convenient for low information posters like almost everyone in this thread to heap blame on the only name they know (hurney)

basically i hate you all

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The only thing I can think of is they're planning on reverting back to a very run heavy offense next year and just used this season to throw everything they possibly could at Cam to get him as much experience as possible.

Then again I'm pretty drunk right now so take it for what it's worth.

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