So who do you want with our 3rd overall pick?

[CRA]

I think of teams like the Steelers, Patriots, Bears, Saints, Giants, etc, none of them have elite recievers. I will say that if Smith is willing to restructure his deal, then of course I would want him to stay.

Steelers have Mike Wallace...who is argueably THE best deep threat in the NFL. He is a stud.

Patriots have Welker. Stud. Patriots also are redefinging and tweaking the TE position and going from hybrids to almost straight up being WRs. Gronk/Hernandez are GREAT.

[mav1234]

I think of teams like the Steelers, Patriots, Bears, Saints, Giants, etc, none of them have elite recievers. I will say that if Smith is willing to restructure his deal, then of course I would want him to stay.

Steelers and Pats both have elite receivers...

if you do not think Welker is elite (and I'm not saying as good as Smith or anything, just elite) you do not watch him play enough.

Steelers have Mike Wallace who is probably one of the best deep threats in the league... an excellent receiver. You may quibble over whether he is "great" or "elite" but he is quality.

Bears have felt they were missing an elite receiver and have repeatedly tried to add one, and I think many of their fans would say they are really missing one.

As to Giants, they don't have one, true. They think they might with Nicks, but, well...

Saints don't but we also can't run their offense right now, so that's kinda irrelevant.

Most teams would love to have an elite receiver. Keeping Smith has to be a priority if we want this offense to continue to grow. In time he may become replaceable, but he is not right now.

[Matthias]

I determine elite receivers by who's throwing to them. Tom Brady was winning superbowls well before Welker showed up. If Welker didn't have Tom Brady, would he still be in the elite category? I think it's the same with Mike Wallace and Big Ben.

[mav1234]

So Cassell is an elite QB? Welker had a decent season that year despite missing two games.

While the QB throwing the ball matters, look at Smitty last year. Even elite receivers with real bad QBs don't do much.

[CRA]

I determine elite receivers by who's throwing to them. Tom Brady was winning superbowls well before Welker showed up. If Welker didn't have Tom Brady, would he still be in the elite category? I think it's the same with Mike Wallace and Big Ben.

yeah, those Patriot defenses, running backs, etc....had nothing to do with those Superbowl wins years ago. You do realize the Patriots prided themselves on D, running the ball, etc a few years ago....

you know when Brady and NE went pass crazy? When Wes Welker arrived. Brady is Brady......but they didn't become a passing offense until Welker arrived.

[Montsta]

At this point we'll be picking 2nd. So we pick up Kalil, and then still draft a defensive stud at 34th. Offensive free agents will want to play here with Cam, so we can pick up those guys that way.

[rayzor]

it would be a huge monumental cork on fork full on moron dumb move to trade smith without replacing him with someone just as good.

trade him just because he's the only one that really has trade value is bad reasoning. trade him for depth on the dline or a 3rd round pick that will be used on ?????

sorry. that just reeks of fail.

the dude is absolutely on fire and has an insane chemistry with cam that will only get better and you take that away? :lol: wow.

can cam get the job done with lesser receivers? maybe, but why would you want to risk it? just not worth it.

[Kuech the Sneak]

I don't know how well get super mario with little cap room...I hate trading away hardy because he doesn't have a big cap hit and is still young

[Montsta]

I don't know how well get super mario with little cap room...I hate trading away hardy because he doesn't have a big cap hit and is still young

I didn't read through all 8 pages, but if someone suggested trading Hardy away, they're an idiot. You don't trade guys that have that kind of production and potential at a price point (without looking) of probably $500K or so. No way.

[Bj-Monster23]

Now you guys can call me crazy but i thought about the same thing today. Now before you guys get ready to kill me hear me out. Let's just say we are picking some were between 3 and 5 in the draft and Matt Kalil will be gone. The panthers will really think about trading out, but they will look at Smitty age and his contract numbers.If Justin blackmon is right on the board there is no chance in hell they wont take him. The reason why is the thought process of them wanting to keep trying to develop Cam and giving him weapons.

Now I always loved Smitty and I hope he never go. But his cap number maybe huge next year and somebody may want to give up a second round pick for his services. Then I can see us going into camp with Gettis number 2 Blackmon 1 and Naanee number 3 or Lafell. Trust me Nannee will be way more effective in the slot. Because you have to look at it this way. Gettis is a good WR but is he a true number 1 ? Smitty is getting old what if he gets injured who will step up and be number 1. So we need to get someone like Blackmon if we can.

Not saying my opinion want change between now and April but I think Blackmon would be a solid choice by draft time.

[Matthias]

So Cassell is an elite QB? Welker had a decent season that year despite missing two games.

While the QB throwing the ball matters, look at Smitty last year. Even elite receivers with real bad QBs don't do much.

I think when it comes to Welker's game, he has many opportunities to make plays. He's a great receiver, but I still don't consider him elite. Cassell's not elite, but he's not bad either. (After all he did justify it by taking the chiefs to the playoffs last year.)

When it comes to Smitty playing with Clausen, every receiver in the league would have struggled playing with him. I do think receivers like Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, and those boys would have had better statistics if they played with Jimmy, but none the less they would be held back.

All in all, if we could get a high draft pick for Smith (early 2nd round or higher), we should trade him. How many of you would trade him for a 1st?

[mav1234]

Who exactly do you think is going to trade a 1st for Smitty? Or hell, even a 2nd? Neither of those seems likely to me...

[Matthias]

I didn't read through all 8 pages, but if someone suggested trading Hardy away, they're an idiot. You don't trade guys that have that kind of production and potential at a price point (without looking) of probably $500K or so. No way.

I love Greg Hardy as well, and if there is no one better on the free agent market, we should definitely keep him. Yet if a Mario Williams became available, I'm willing to make space to sign him.

[Bj-Monster23]

Who exactly do you think is going to trade a 1st for Smitty? Or hell, even a 2nd? Neither of those seems likely to me...

You can probably get a second or a third but they wont get a first for him. The team has to be very desperate maybe somebody like the patriots who would probably wont a deep threat.