Breaking News: Denver plans to deal QB Cutler

[carolinarolls]

So when logic fails, and you can't bait folks about Jake, now we resort to personal attacks.

Yeah I am desperate to debate with you and I am so mentally challenged I can't see through your transparent attempts to create a controversy.

Sorry you will have to get some better bait. Try something else less juvenile.

Congrats on the post count. Do you get paid by the post or what??

I'm the one diverting and transparent but you are the one inventing "Crolls is a parody poster" theories.

OOOOOO..Kay

I don't need bait. All I have to do is post and you follow me around this board like a lost puppy. You are so full of yourself and think you are so right about anything that you can't help yourself from being an asshole, maybe even a bigger one than you think I am.

Try to stay away if I'm so transparent and I am a parody poster who has a deal with Zod then 55.

lmao at the old grumpy man 55 making up random bullshit because he isn't smart enough to reply any longer!

[vumpler]

Looks like there has been some derailing here.

Anyway I have to same I'm completely in the camp for throwing the farm at denver to bring in Cutler. The point was made on another forum that we're already losing Jpep next year, we might as well find a way to bring another team into the deal: trading Jake/cutting him, and moving Pep plus next years 1st.

If we're going to be losing 1 of the staples in our "big 3 faces" and Jake isn't helping matters with his contract we might as well make it happen.

[carolinarolls]

Looks like there has been some derailing here.

Anyway I have to same I'm completely in the camp for throwing the farm at denver to bring in Cutler. The point was made on another forum that we're already losing Jpep next year, we might as well find a way to bring another team into the deal: trading Jake/cutting him, and moving Pep plus next years 1st.

If we're going to be losing 1 of the staples in our "big 3 faces" and Jake isn't helping matters with his contract we might as well make it happen.

I do not understand why your point is so hard for people to understand. I do not believe it will happen but it would be at least something to entertain. Anything on this board that threatens the position of Jake Delhomme automatically gets thrown mud at though so you have to take some comments with a grain of salt if you want to post here at the huddle.

It's not really that these people are stupid, they are just VERY loyal.

[vumpler]

I do not understand why your point is so hard for people to understand. I do not believe it will happen but it would be at least something to entertain. Anything on this board that threatens the position of Jake Delhomme automatically gets thrown mud at though so you have to take some comments with a grain of salt if you want to post here at the huddle.

It's not really that these people are stupid, they are just VERY loyal.

Yeah I'm up for it. I'm trying to look at it from a non biased mindset, but its difficult.

These opportunities rarely come around to pick up such a high caliber YOUNG QB. I got to watch him play many games at Vandy and it crossed my mind "He looks like a young accurate Jake." Then he hit the NFL and I feel he looks more explosive and different than at vandy but very exciting.

Realistically we're going to need a QB within the next 5 years to be our franchise QB. Why not pull the trigger now? Our overall team age will increase for a couple years based on the loss of draft picks, but I think it would put us in a GREAT position for a run this year and next.

[rayzor]

Looks like there has been some derailing here.

Anyway I have to same I'm completely in the camp for throwing the farm at denver to bring in Cutler. The point was made on another forum that we're already losing Jpep next year, we might as well find a way to bring another team into the deal: trading Jake/cutting him, and moving Pep plus next years 1st.

If we're going to be losing 1 of the staples in our "big 3 faces" and Jake isn't helping matters with his contract we might as well make it happen.

I do not understand why your point is so hard for people to understand. I do not believe it will happen but it would be at least something to entertain. Anything on this board that threatens the position of Jake Delhomme automatically gets thrown mud at though so you have to take some comments with a grain of salt if you want to post here at the huddle.

It's not really that these people are stupid, they are just VERY loyal.

the derailing has happened because the debate is old and tired and has been going on for weeks. no one has anything new to offer and everyone keeps going around in circles. most of the discussions turn into pissing matches. mud gets slung by everyone..doesn't matter what side of the issue you are on.

giving up the farm for cutler? i just don't see that happening. the panthers aren't going to do that. the broncos aren't going to trade with us because we really don't have anything they want. they want to make sure they have a good long term QB with the potential of cutler and they want a high pick. we don't have either.

whether jake is a good enough QB for the future doesn't matter. few here believe that we will be sticking with him for years or will believe that we should. some want to wait and think that there are good options for us on years that aren't this one. the draft class is horrible. the FA class was horrible. cutler just really has too many issues that will drive us bonkers (not that we don't have that with jake) but none of that matters because we don't have what the broncos are looking for. other teams do. more than likely, though, we will still be better than those other teams when all is said and done.

[Fireball77]

It's not really that these people are stupid, they are just VERY loyal.

Has nothing to do with that for anyone I know of on here who supports his being the starter.

[panthers55]

Looks like there has been some derailing here.

Anyway I have to same I'm completely in the camp for throwing the farm at denver to bring in Cutler. The point was made on another forum that we're already losing Jpep next year, we might as well find a way to bring another team into the deal: trading Jake/cutting him, and moving Pep plus next years 1st.

If we're going to be losing 1 of the staples in our "big 3 faces" and Jake isn't helping matters with his contract we might as well make it happen.

It is clear that Jake has a limited time left and we need to identify his successor. The real question is whether Cutler is that guy and whether given our other needs and resources this is the best time to be pursuing him. If for example we trade Peppers and get some good draft picks for him, do we build up the defense this year and worry about quarterback next year. Do we give Moore another year to mature and see what he has or make a move now.

I think there most everyone would agree that we need to find our next quarterback given we all know that Jake isn't getting any younger, I just don't know the timing is good to pursue him at the price folks think he will command particularly when there may be much cheaper alternatives next year or even this year after the draft.

I am in the camp that believes Cutler has been over hyped, is still a risk at the price of 2 1sts and your starting quarterback. I would much prefer for example to take a flyer on Campbell for a second or third rounder versus Cutler.

[carolinarolls]

I'm all for Campbell too.

The trade is not really the discussion here because the trade is not going to happen.

A) we don't have anything to trade

our only commodity on the market...we can't talk about with anyone

C) our only commodity and our starter are not enough for Denver to ship Cut

The discussion morphed into if Jay would be better than Jake given the Carolina roster for 09-10 and if our team would be better if he came and replaced Jake and Pep.

-pep is gone...in every way possible other than physically

-jake is average...no argument tells me that Jay would not be as good as or better

-jay has some perceived issues...nothing tells me that the guy cannot play and would not flourish in our system tomorrow

we are going to have to fill pep's hole one way or another. so far there was a RUMOR that we may get offered a 2nd round pic...that is it so far.

If yoiu are of the belief (and I am) that pep is just not going todraw what we think he should draw then you have to think that a Cutler trade for him and Jake would be VERY good considering the alternative...a flier on a 2nd rounder that has never even been formally offered.

This all stems form the peppers incident. We are not a player here, or anywhere else for that matter, because we are handcuffed. Of course if you are still hoping for that two first round draft picks offer to fall from the sky I can see your (anyone's) reluctance to think the Cutl trade is a good move. I guess you (anyone) would believe it's better to take the mythical two first rounders and solidify the d-line and build depth either at DB or OL. Great! Me too!

If in fact I was out in my yard staring at the sun and waiting for the good news to hit the press.

I'm not.

[Fox007]

I am in the camp that believes Cutler has been over hyped, is still a risk at the price of 2 1sts and your starting quarterback. I would much prefer for example to take a flyer on Campbell for a second or third rounder versus Cutler.

I don't think Cutler has been over hyped at all, but no way in hell do we or should we give up 2 1sts for him.

The only way I would have wanted Cutler would have been for Peppers straight up, and that is not a likely scenario.

Campbell for a 3rd would be worth a shot to me.(and even then I wouldn't be opposed to drafting one to sit for awhile)

[jpniner]

somebody will give up alot for a 25 yr old franchise QB who already has made the pro-bowl and has an un-real arm.

that alone is why the Panthers have no shot, unless for some reason the Broncos really want Peppers, and he would be willing to live in Denver

[carpanfan96]

Word in from Denver on what it would take to complete Cutler Trade.

In the meantime, the Broncos have informed all interested teams that they want at least two first-round picks for Cutler and getting a quarterback in exchange is not a necessity, Chris Mortensen reports. A team source said it was possible Cutler could be traded as soon as Friday.

[Ccat]

Word in from Denver on what it would take to complete Cutler Trade.

In the meantime, the Broncos have informed all interested teams that they want at least two first-round picks for Cutler and getting a quarterback in exchange is not a necessity, Chris Mortensen reports. A team source said it was possible Cutler could be traded as soon as Friday.

It probably wasn't necessary to post the exact same thing in 3 different threads. Most of the people looking at each thread are the same.

[rayzor]

It probably wasn't necessary to post the exact same thing in 3 different threads. Most of the people looking at each thread are the same.

better than starting another thread that says the same thing every other thread says.

[carpanfan96]

better than starting another thread that says the same thing every other thread says.

Exactly posting it in all three of these stupid Cutler threads limit's the possibility of another stupid Cutler to Carolina Thread........

Cause everyone knows that QB is our biggest need.