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Obligatory "Do We Sign This Released Player?" Thread: Albert Haynesworth

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I wouldn't compare Greene, who is finalist for the HOF this year and now a coach with a super bowl ring, to a lard ass cry baby who blames everyone else but himself.

This was Haynesworth last chance and it was a golden opportunity for him to revitalize his once promising career.

The sad thing is his coach probably got on his ass about not hustling in practice.

Real life>Madden

this thread is going to serve as a very good reference point for the intelligent, realistic fans and the other people who post here.

Haynesworth has just as much ability as Greene did at their respective positions. Again, he's got off-field issues.

I was just pointing out that Kevin Greene had a "spat" with a coach as well and was always well regarded after you cited Haynesworth's argument with a coach as a reason to not sign him.

And you were the first to mention "Madden" in this thread.

And here we go again in the factions of fans and what constitutes "real" or "intelligent and realistic" fans from "others." Give me a break man.

It's a thread about Albert Haynesworth and whether you think he could be a fit here. We have a need at DT. He's talented. He has off-field issues.

Yet, you are the second person in this thread to take personal offense to the question being posed. Both people complaining about this thread are demonstrating the exact behavior that has generated the "us vs. them" culture on this board that people claim is ruining this board.

This sh*t is getting old. How about discussing the issue and not personally attacking others?

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4Corners Grand Master

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I think Hayensworth problem is he thinks he is acting like a team leader when he does things like this but in actuallity he is just acting out like a selfish spoiled 14 year old.

I wouldn't touch the guy with a 40 ft stick but at this point nothing will surprise me with this team and Marty.

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Haynesworth has just as much ability as Greene did at their respective positions. Again, he's got off-field issues.

I was just pointing out that Kevin Greene had a "spat" with a coach as well and was always well regarded after you cited Haynesworth's argument with a coach as a reason to not sign him.

And you were the first to mention "Madden" in this thread.

And here we go again in the factions of fans and what constitutes "real" or "intelligent and realistic" fans from "others." Give me a break man.

It's a thread about Albert Haynesworth and whether you think he could be a fit here. We have a need at DT. He's talented. He has off-field issues.

Yet, you are the second person in this thread to take personal offense to the question being posed. Both people complaining about this thread are demonstrating the exact behavior that has generated the "us vs. them" culture on this board that people claim is ruining this board.

This sh*t is getting old.

Do you play madden?

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albert breer had a good article about him just prior to the season starting and it doesn't sound like things got much better.

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As one source there put it, "He was as selfish a teammate as I've been around. ... Something was wrong every practice or meeting, and when games came, he didn't care. He'd been trying to get cut since the day (the current regime) came in the door, so he could take his money and go wherever he wanted."

Last December, in fact, a slew of teammates went on the record to call Haynesworth out for his lack of professionalism in dealing with superiors. Conversely, defensive end Andre Carter, a teammate of Haynesworth in 2009 and '10 in Washington who was signed with the Patriots shortly after the deal, sung a different tune, citing the defensive tackle buying the whole team barbecue following a game against Tennessee last year and saying, "If I'm backed in a corner, I know he'll have my back."

"Last year was last year, all the things that happened, it was tough," Carter said. "I know people talk about him not being professional, what can I say? He may have not liked the scheme, but he came in and worked, he was placed in the pass-rush situations. ... As a man, he was upfront and honest about the scheme, that this was not what he signed up for. That's him being a man, being upfront and blunt."

While it is obvious that part of the problem was the non-existent relationship between Shanahan and Haynesworth -- and obviously, the player's story is different from the club's -- the two-time Pro Bowler's issues weren't limited to Washington. Even in Tennessee, where he had a position coach, in Jim Washburn, he got on famously with, and playing in a city he loved, there were problems.

"He's a bad guy," said one source there. "He's actually intelligent, which makes it worse, because he knows what he's doing. ... He could care less about (motivational tactics). Belichick will not reach him. He's motivated by money, and sometimes revenge. He is a (expletive) when it comes to women. I think he'll be motivated when they play Washington. That's it."

When asked if the "bad guy" assessment was accurate, another source said, "That's a really tough one. Yeah, I can't sugarcoat it -- he's not a good guy. Put it that way. He can be tolerable, and he's really smart. He had a radio show in Nashville, and he could be very likable with the fans, very fan-friendly at times. But when the head-stomping incident (involving Cowboys center Andre Gurode) happened, everything went south.

"He became a hermit. Everything changed. He wasn't awful before, and then he became this spiteful jerk. He always had a temper problem, but before, in normal situations, he was fine. ... He'd never been a great guy, but things got worse."

And then, you have what two coaches who worked with Haynesworth in Tennessee -- Jim Schwartz and Gunther Cunningham, both now with the Lions -- told Detroit reporters the other day. Cunningham was there for Haynesworth's first two years in the league (before the Gurode incident), and said "I love him as a player and a person." Schwartz, the Titans' defensive coordinator for Haynesworth's entire run there and who broke into the NFL under Belichick in Cleveland, added that trade hardly surprised him.

Beyond all this, there is also the string of legal issues, the latest being the aforementioned assault case. Prior to that Haynesworth was involved in a road-rage incident early this year, was sued for $10 million by a stripper who claimed he impregnated her, and was also cited for a car accident in 2006 that left a man paralyzed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821bee88/article/haynesworth-not-belichick-holds-keys-to-reclamation-project

there was a lot more in there. it's a really good read and really good reasons why no team will be chasing after him. he's just not worth the hassle, regardless of how cheap we can get him.
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What does that have to do with me citing a guy's ability and mentioning watching him still dominate in games this year?

Another attempt to undermine and derail a thread you don't like?

Just stop man.

I'll take that as a yes.

Haynesworth is a cancer who has run out of ability and chances in the NFL.

He was just cut from one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

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