Penn State...what did Paterno know?

[Epistaxis]

I can't figure out the logic in letting Sandusky speak.

Rule #1 in criminal defense...keep your mouth SHUT.

Not that I feel bad that he came across as a exactly what he is.

The only thing that gets this guy off is ONE PSU football loon on the jury.

Change of venue?

[Carolina Husker]

Change of venue or the old "I'm guilty of this but not that" defense.

[Happy Panther]

I can't figure out the logic in letting Sandusky speak.

Rule #1 in criminal defense...keep your mouth SHUT.

Not that I feel bad that he came across as a exactly what he is.

The only thing that gets this guy off is ONE PSU football loon on the jury.

Change of venue?

Yeah you have to move it to Philly or Pittsburgh and then be extremely careful about Jury selection to avoid a mistrial.

Sandusky is likely a psychopath or has delusions of grandeur. His lawyer probably isn't giving him good advice.

[Delhomeboy]

I can't figure out the logic in letting Sandusky speak.

Rule #1 in criminal defense...keep your mouth SHUT.

That's why I think it's a good move, from a legal standpoint. This slimeball...er, lawyer...realizes that if Sandusky DOES keep his mouth shut, it's not going to help him anymore than him speaking, IMO anyway. But if you DO let him talk, and "proclaim his innocence from the mountaintop"...perhaps you sow some doubt in people's minds. It can't hurt. And, quite frankly, from a defense standpoint the interview went about as well as Sandusky and shark could possibly hope for.

Sandusky is likely a psychopath or has delusions of grandeur. His lawyer probably isn't giving him good advice.

If he is a, um, "clinical" pedophile, for lack of a better term, he probably sees himself as having true affections for these kids, no matter what he did or did not do; he probably truly thinks he didn't do anything wrong.

[mav1234]

If he is a, um, "clinical" pedophile, for lack of a better term, he probably sees himself as having true affections for these kids, no matter what he did or did not do; he probably truly thinks he didn't do anything wrong.

yup... if you listen to his response to the last question it's clear that is how he feels...

[Hotsauce]

I have not read any of this thread.

With that said, Paterno will be just fine...

Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno's long service at the university theoretically puts him in line for a pension of more than $500,000 a year, according to an Associated Press analysis of state public pension records.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7239147/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-joe-paterno-line-annual-pension-500000-according-review

[Matt Foley]

I listened to bits and pieces of the Sandusky interview....WTF was that lawyer thinking?

[Carolina Husker]

Bob Costas furthers the point why Paterno is such a sad old coot.

Of Course He Knew

[Carolina Husker]

So Sandusky's lawyer says most of the boys are ready to testify that none of it happened. We will see.

Could have backfired

[Jangler]

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/exclusive_jerry_sandusky_inter.html

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Jerry Sandusky’s primetime television interview Monday led several potential victims to come forward and consider sharing their story, according to two State College attorneys.

Hearing his voice and his words proclaiming no wrong — while admitting he showered innocently with young boys — was a trigger for some who say they were abused by the former Penn State defensive coordinator. One said it went back to the 1970s, around the time Sandusky founded the charity that prosecutors say was his axis for finding victims.

[Carolina Husker]

Paterno is such a piece of shit.

During her four years as the vice president for student affairs, Vicky Triponey challenged that power and lost. Triponey held direct oversight of the Office of Judicial Affairs, the university's disciplinary arm. When football players ran afoul of school policy, Triponey said Paterno interfered with the discipline process.

After one such incident, Triponey said, then-president Graham Spanier told her, "Vicky, you're one of the handful of people who have seen the darker side of Joe Paterno."

"When we say, 'We are Penn State,' it's more than just 'We are Penn State and you're not.' It's also: 'We are Penn State and we are one. We are members on the same team, therefore we will do whatever it takes to protect the team, the culture around the team and university,' "

He also acknowledged the question that has troubled many: Why did Penn State's leaders fail to act? "People are asking completely valid questions about why actions were not taken that might have saved any of the victims from harm," said Frazier, the chief executive officer and president of Merck.

In April 2007, as many as two dozen football players forced their way into a party at an off-campus apartment and assaulted several students at the party, including Britt's son, Jack, who was severely beaten. Six players faced criminal charges as a result of the brawl. In the end, many of the charges against the players were dismissed, and two players pleaded guilty to misdemeanor offenses.

In the middle of the school's internal investigation, Triponey said Spanier ordered her to meet with Paterno. Triponey said she had repeatedly refused to discuss cases with Paterno because she didn't want to compromise her impartiality. "The coach was not happy with that," Triponey said in a telephone interview with USA TODAY. "Many times he tried to insist upon a meeting with me, asked others to have meetings with me. Sent his wife (Sue) one time. In the middle of cases. This became a bone of contention."

"The coach was literally telling his players that they couldn't cooperate with judicial affairs or they would get kicked off the team. So we were going nowhere in getting to the bottom of things," Triponey said. "I said to the coach, 'This would be so much easier if you would tell your players just to tell the truth.' He was livid, and the message to me was, 'I can't do that. They have to play for me and I can't ask them to rat on each other.' The president also chimed in and said, 'Vicky, the coach is right. We can't expect the players to tell the truth.' So that's the environment that was underlying this whole debate about who's in charge."

Britt said the school's handling of the case showed who was in charge. "The highest official in State College, Pa., is Joe Paterno. I don't care what anybody else's title is, he ran the show up there. And he knew about everything. There's no doubt in anybody's mind that it all comes back to JoePa," Britt said. "I got this from the (police) officers I dealt with. Basically they said it's a nightmare, any case that involves the football team."

What the Rest of Us Already Know

[Carolina Husker]

Sandusky Changes Course and Waives Preliminary Hearing

BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Accusers had undergone the stress of preparing to testify publicly what they had kept secret for years. A judge had been brought in from Western Pennsylvania. This small town had closed off its downtown square to accommodate parking for hundreds of members of the news media.

Grim anticipation had built for weeks. And then, as Jerry Sandusky, the disgraced former Penn State football coach, was to face some of his accusers Tuesday on charges that he had sexually abused them as boys, Sandusky waived his right to a preliminary hearing just as it began in a packed courtroom.

He is now scheduled to be arraigned on Jan. 11, two weeks before his 68th birthday. Meanwhile, he will remain under house arrest and must wear an ankle monitor. As he left the Centre County Courthouse, located about 10 miles northeast of the Penn State campus, Sandusky, who has professed his innocence, used a football metaphor, shouting to reporters, “We’re going to stay the course and fight for four quarters.

[g5jamz]

Coward.

[Carolina Husker]

Less than 12 hours after he witnessed Jerry Sandusky with his arms wrapped around a young boy, molesting him in a locker room shower, Mike McQueary says he went to Joe Paterno's home, sat at his kitchen table and told him he'd seen something "way over the lines and extremely sexual in nature."

Sandusky is a monster, but at this point, is there still any debate about what an absolute horrible piece of shit Paterno is?

McQueary made the decision to tell Paterno after consulting with his father the night before, he said.

"I got up the next morning early and called (Paterno's) house and told him I needed to see him," he said. "He said, I don't have a job for you and if that's what it's about, don't bother coming over, and I said coach it's about something much more serious. I need to come over and see you."

Meanwhile a job opened up immediately after telling PSU and Paterno of the accusations