Merril hodge says cam newton a top 5 qb right now.

[bigcatdaddy]

This is false and another bullpoo lie that you guys keep spewing which again I just proved this wrong above for Minnesota if you wanna take the time to look at the facts. We had +2 possession in the game yesterday compared to Minnesota thanks to our D getting us a stop on their first drive, us getting the ball in the second half and 1 turnover also thanks to our D.

Cam however has taken HIMSELF off the field, and in the same token he's put our defense on the field 2 times. This has happened just about every game.

I could crunch the numbers for the season, but since I know it won't make a difference in how you see things I'm not sure I wanna waste my time.

And you're right he had 0 interceptions 2 games ago. Guess what happened? We won. 0-6 now when we don't turn over the ball. This streak, like his 4th quarter stat when we are down or tied continues.

Cam Newton exceptional QB. Give me a break!:rolleyes

Exceptional rookie. Yeah he can be described as such. Exceptional NFL QB that's playing efficiently enough to win games: fug NO!

Wow really?

61% completion percentage

2393 yards

300 ypg average

18 TD's

319 rushing yards

Those numbers aren't impressive? You are an idiot and don't understand football at all.

[Delhommey]

Wow y'all are getting trolled.

[CRA]

so what, TRD now has a 3rd screen name?

He should lay off the bolding of words. Makes it all stand out. Each new screen name has a new gimmick. Last one used the twitter #crap......this one bolds random words. The gimmick of each new screen name ties it all together.

[The_Mango55]

Wow y'all are getting trolled.

Possibly, but my theory is that if the supposed troll puts more effort into his posts than the people replying then it's not a very successful troll.

[bigcatdaddy]

I am not hating. I'm only telling you the numbers, that is all. You guys are nuts and are the ones hating on the D with a bunch of false poo. You guys are looking at specific examples and I'm giving you recap of a 6 game analysis. You don't think 6 games is enough but you believe one big play on the field proves something.

And that bolded part continues the nonsenese. It's not the defense putting us in a comeback situation. It's CAM! His turnovers are also the reason our D gets put in a pooty spot. They do in fact try to do something about it and help him out. They have gotten us turnovers.

I am only telling you the numbers. That is all. Trying to make you see some facts and truth. I'm trying to stop some from drinking any more of that juice because you really do sound like a bunch of angry drunk men taking out their aggression on their family because their new mistress are breaking their hearts.

Seriously, come back to EARTH!

You are an idiot, the defense has gotten 8 turnovers through 8 games which is ranked 28th in the league plus we are 28th in points allowed. Open your eyes the defense sucks and you are not showing me numbers to dispute that. Either you don't understand football or you just want to hate on Cam because numbers don't lie and the D is awful while Cam is putting up great numbers.

[CRA]

You are an idiot, the defense has gotten 8 turnovers through 8 games which is ranked 28th in the league plus we are 28th in points allowed. Open your eyes the defense sucks and you are not showing me numbers to dispute that. Either you don't understand football or you just want to hate on Cam because numbers don't lie and the D is awful while Cam is putting up great numbers.

in addition to the D being ranked 28th, ST is 29th in the return game, given up multiple returns for TDs, missed kicks, had them blocked etc.

The reason why have more wins than losses is clear......D and ST both are horrific. Can't win consistantly and be horrific at 2 phases of the game....unless you have a HOF QB (can't expect Cam to be that yet)

[Pantherball]

To answer the Bullpoo regarding his performance...what are you watching? Did you bet on the game? Is a bookie after you?

Here, its called a box score..

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011103003/2011/REG8/vikings@panthers#menu=gameinfo&tab=analyze

No need to crunch numbers where you would find the panthers Third down Defense in the bottom 5 of the league...again if you watch this..you would see it. Getting drunk, yelling at Newton the whole game may skew your perspective.

Are you Skip Bayless?

What exactly are you showing me? Another game where our offense puts up more yards than our opponent but our offense puts up less points because Cam Newton has more turn-overs than our opponent, and we lose by 3 when we are in the redzone with less than 2 minutes on the clock?

Another team that can put up more points with less yards because Cam gives them easy scores?

Another game where we lose by 3 points because the offense can't even score 3 points in the last 25 minutes of the game?

Skip Bayless has some bias, but he has more sense than you.

[micnificent28]

Its all cams fault. What a draft day blunder. We could have had peterson. Damn...

[Stroupe-a-loop]

What exactly are you showing me? Another game where our offense puts up more yards than our opponent but our offense puts up less points because Cam Newton has more turn-overs than our opponent, and we lose by 3 when we are in the redzone with less than 2 minutes on the clock?

Another team that can put up more points with less yards because Cam gives them easy scores?

Another game where we lose by 3 points because the offense can't even score 3 points in the last 25 minutes of the game?

Skip Bayless has some bias, but he has more sense than you.

Yeah, he's really stretching at this point. I say we just leave it at this: a post where he says being in the redzone down by 3 is a terrible thing, Cam gave up easy scores resulting in an unstoppable drive, and some fleeting praise of Skip Bayless.

He deserves to go out on this note.

[Pantherball]

in addition to the D being ranked 28th, ST is 29th in the return game, given up multiple returns for TDs, missed kicks, had them blocked etc.

The reason why have more wins than losses is clear......D and ST both are horrific. Can't win consistantly and be horrific at 2 phases of the game....unless you have a HOF QB (can't expect Cam to be that yet)

Hopeless.

In what CRA? Points allowed? They are actually 25th now. But Why? Because our QB is ranked 29th in the league in interceptions and our opponents are generally gifted points? You guys act like this defense is getting blown out and it's thanks to our amazing scoring offense that we are in these games close. Our D's not getting blown out. We are in every single game in the 4th quarter and our O cannot put it away.

You have it freaking completely backwards. You keep missing this part:

Our defense just had a "take-away" from Minnesota. Our O could not capitalize.

Cam Newton "turned-over" the ball 2 times to Minnesota. Minnesota could.

And our offense is not good or great in scoring points. It's average. It's 14th in points scored. Our defense is ranked 17th.

So what happens when your team is ranked average in scoring points, average on defense in yards allowed, your rookie 29th in interception and the team is 22nd in turnovers, but the offense can't even capitalize on any of the ones the defense gets them? It makes the defense 28th in points allowed!

Use some common sense man. If the offense was carrying this team they would be 5th in points scored too, not just yards!

[The_Mango55]

Our defense just had a "take-away" from Minnesota. Our O could not capitalize.

Cam Newton "turned-over" the ball 2 times to Minnesota. Minnesota could.

I wonder why Minnesota could capitalize on these turnovers, maybe because the defense blows? The offense turns it over so it's alright that the defense gives up a 39 yard TD in 21 seconds? You can keep excusing the defense for giving up after turnovers if you want, but the rest of us hold them to a higher standard.

And I'm going to copy and paste this until you respont to it.

Are you really blaming BOTH of those fumbles on Cam? The first one was vaugley Cam's responsibility since he could have stepped up in the pocket more, but D Williams takes at least 50% of the blame for missing the block. The second one was 100% on Gross, it literally would have happened to every QB in the NFL.

[teeray]

Hopeless.

In what CRA? Points allowed? They are actually 25th now. But Why? Because our QB is ranked 29th in the league in interceptions and our opponents are generally gifted points? You guys act like this defense is getting blown out and it's thanks to our amazing scoring offense that we are in these games close. Our D's not getting blown out. We are in every single game in the 4th quarter and our O cannot put it away.

You have it freaking completely backwards. You keep missing this part:

Our defense just had a "take-away" from Minnesota. Our O could not capitalize.

Cam Newton "turned-over" the ball 2 times to Minnesota. Minnesota could.

And our offense is not good or great in scoring points. It's average. It's 14th in points scored. Our defense is ranked 17th.

So what happens when your team is ranked average in scoring points, average on defense in yards allowed, your rookie 29th in interception and the team is 22nd in turnovers, but the offense can't even capitalize on any of the ones the defense gets them? It makes the defense 28th in points allowed!

Use some common sense man. If the offense was carrying this team they would be 5th in points scored too, not just yards!

:lol: Takeaways should not mean automatic touchdowns and there has been only two games that you could attribute any real blame for PPG allowed by our defense and special teams on our offense. The Green Bay and Minny games.

It is sad how far you have had to devolve to try and assess blame solely on our offense and Cam :lol:

Actually what is sad is the fact that you think you are nailing it out of the park every time you post when in reality it is removed farther and farther from reality. :sad:

[Pantherball]

Yeah, he's really stretching at this point. I say we just leave it at this: a post where he says being in the redzone down by 3 is a terrible thing, Cam gave up easy scores resulting in an unstoppable drive, and some fleeting praise of Skip Bayless.

He deserves to go out on this note.

It is because we did not get the 3 points to tie the game.

That is horrible last time I checked in the real world. That is not a good thing. Losing 6 games when we are down by one score or less in the 4th quarter and our offense has the ball in situations like those is absolutely disgusting and gut wrenching.

Gut wrenching loss = bad thing. Not good. 1 or 2 games like this are "moral victories" early in the season when you have a rookie QB. 6 turns them into gut wrenching losses.

Seriously, you guys are like this close man to figuring it out and breaking free...don't give up.

[teeray]

Our defense is ranked 17th.

Our defense is ranked 30th and regressed after this last week in the standings.

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/teampage.php

But keep stretching while you can :rofl:

I only point this out to show that you sound foolish to try to shoulder all the blame for our record on our offense and at the same time try to absolve our defense form any blame at all. Truth be told if our defense was even average we wouldn't have to rely on fourth quarter comebacks because we would be taking a knee with the game locked up.