Just tell the truth about Jake...you don't love him

[mantal]

I just want Jake to lift some weights or get on some roids to get that arm stronger. He throws behind WR's way too much. It would be nice if he could lead our WR's off and I'm sure Smith would appreciate it.

I know everyone loves to pile on and point at the misses, but Delhomme also catches Smith, etc. in stride more times than he doesn't. His misses call for a spectacular recovery from SS, que the highlight film. We just like to concentrate on the negative, don't we?...

[OneBadassCat]

I know everyone loves to pile on and point at the misses, but Delhomme also catches Smith, etc. in stride more times than he doesn't. His misses call for a spectacular recovery from SS, que the highlight film. We just like to concentrate on the negative, don't we?...

Lets not pretend Jake has a good arm. Yea he can zip it sometimes, but he is usually throwing high or behind WRs.

[mantal]

Lets not pretend Jake has a good arm. Yea he can zip it sometimes, but he is usually throwing high or behind WRs.

I've never said that he was a top 5 QB in the league, far from it. I've said that he's an average QB in the league and that is what he is. In this system, that's more than enough. CarPanFan showed statistics that he might be a top 3 QB. I don't go with that, but I didn't have too. You went there and I called you on it. You cannot defend yourself, deal with it...

[OneBadassCat]

I've never said that he was a top 5 QB in the league, far from it. I've said that he's an average QB in the league and that is what he is. In this system, that's more than enough. CarPanFan showed statistics that he might be a top 3 QB. I don't go with that, but I didn't have too. You went there and I called you on it. You cannot defend yourself, deal with it...

I never said you said he was a top 5 QB. We are talking about his arm, and he as a QB is above average but his arm strength needs work.

[mantal]

I never said you said he was a top 5 QB. We are talking about his arm, and he as a QB is above average but his arm strength needs work.

Fair enough, I'll stand down...

[Snake]

I never said you said he was a top 5 QB. We are talking about his arm, and he as a QB is above average but his arm strength needs work.

You mean his accuracy. His arm straight is very good now after his surgery. He is very spotty on his accuracy though but the good thing is a QB coach can work on that but power is just god given.

[AKPantherFan]

Lets not pretend Jake has a good arm. Yea he can zip it sometimes, but he is usually throwing high or behind WRs.

Pretty damn funny, I remember him Overthrowing the EVER FAST Steve Smith this season on some long bombs.

Either Smith is getting slower, or Jake has more sling....

[OneBadassCat]

Pretty damn funny, I remember him Overthrowing the EVER FAST Steve Smith this season on some long bombs.

Either Smith is getting slower, or Jake has more sling....

Its inaccuracy. He's thrown behind Moose several times, does that mean Moose is faster than Smith? He overthrew a wide open Barnidge at Oak, he would have had a TD.

[Nu Guns]

He has a Pennington arm

[bigdog_10_2002]

I don't give a flying flip whether a QB can throw it 70 yards or 40....what I want in a QB is accuracy and smart decision making...something our current QB has struggled with throughout his career.

[carpanfan96]

I don't give a flying flip whether a QB can throw it 70 yards or 40....what I want in a QB is accuracy and smart decision making...something our current QB has struggled with throughout his career.

Hence why he has a 59.7 completion percentage, a QB rating of 85.1 and 115 TDs to 76 INT....

[rayzor]

Hence why he has a 59.7 completion percentage, a QB rating of 85.1 and 115 TDs to 76 INT....

compared to.....

[bigdog_10_2002]

Hence why he has a 59.7 completion percentage, a QB rating of 85.1 and 115 TDs to 76 INT....

Are we really going to debate whether or not Jake Delhomme is an accurate QB???

Do those statistics you wrote not scream average to you??

I like Jake, I love the leadership he brings to our team, but when it come to talent at the QB spot this team needs to be looking elsewhere. He's mediocre, who gets a ton of credit for game winning drives where Steve Smith bails him out.

Heck, I can think of three games off the top of my head just from last year, where Smith made the play on a chuck and pray from delhomme.

1. Arizona part one (not really a bad throw by jake, as much as it was a great play by smith)

2. Green Bay

3. New orleans part two

To all those defending jake left and right, I would like to see you rank the NFL QB's if you wouldn't mind taking the time. I want to get a good picture at where you feel Jake ranks among the other 31 starting QB's in the league.

Is he in the top fifteen, fifteen to twenty, or lower. I'm curious.

Here's how I see it objectively.

Top ten: In no particular order.

Manning, Brady, Rivers, Cutler, Roethlisburger, Brees, Warner, Mcnabb, Palmer, Rodgers.

10-15

E. Manning, Hasselbeck, Rodgers, Schaub, Ryan

15-25

Flacco, Romo, Pennington, Delhomme, Garcia, Cassel, Garrard

I get him 15 at best....just curious what others come up with

[Fireball77]

Not trying to be an ass bigdog, but you do realize that Eli's accuracy is about the same as Jake's, right?