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Terry Bradshaw ranked Dalton ahead of Cam...

MGH1989

By MGH1989,
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Dpantherman Newbie

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Panthers have better weapons at TE, RB and WR than Cincy. Dalton is the one who needs more help.

Are you incapable of processing common sense or do you just ignore logic on purpose?

Why do you continue to leave out Defense and Special Teams? To prove your point? or do you really thing there is only one phase to winning football games?

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Disagree, completely.

Our offense is better. We are scoring more points (not by many, but we are), but in addition to that our running backs are better (and our production shows it), our receivers are overall better (though in time theres could be), and our TEs are better.

To say Cam has no-one on offense he can turn to is ridiculous. Not only do we have a top 10 rushing offense, we have one of the top receivers in the game and two of the better tight ends. While our OC may be forcing him to try to win games instead of leaning on others, our offense is better than the Bengals, period... even with Chud's stupid moves.The difference is that the Bengals defense and special teams are helping the offense win games. In our case, it feels like the offense has to make up for mistakes the def/st make... but that's not just Cam, because he does have support. But our offense can't do it alone.

First off, I didn't say he didn't have anyone. I said it seems he's more throwing to inconsistant receivers and doesn't have a consistant receivers like Ponder and AP or Andy and A.J. Green.

Did u see the Bengals/ Sea Hawks game? Andy has a lot of room to fug up and still pull out a win because he has people around him who understands that he is a rookie QB. Cam isn't afforded such luxury. He's playing on a team who seems to now feel it's his job to carry them. He shouldn't be forced to win games by himself. That alone should make u wonder what is really going on with the decision making and this team. What's on paper clearly isn't matching what is happening on the field.

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Are you incapable of processing common sense or do you just ignore logic on purpose?

Why do you continue to leave out Defense and Special Teams? To prove your point? or do you really thing there is only one phase to winning football games?

Just replying to the guy who said that Dalton had a way better supporting cast on offense which is not true. Keep your pants on, I am a panther fan, not some hugger for anyone. When Jake or anyone had ups and downs, I called em as ups or downs. Just having fun with the maturity (ha ha) of posters who act like school kids with no real grasp of the game. Just "Cam is the greatest and the rest of the world sucks" attitude.

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Maybe because he is 5-2 and Cam is 2-5

Andy Dalton AND the Cincinnati Bengals are 5-2. Cam and the Carolina Panthers are 2-6 (so first off, get the records right).

See there is this thing that is called a team. And the TEAM (not just one player) has to play well to win football games. Therefore, you can't determine how good a QB is by wins alone.

Think about this, if its all about wins, why is 30-17 Vince Young a BACKUP QB right now?

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/30/the-bengals-are-not-going-away/

Rookie OC, Rookie QB, Rookie WR. Not the best talent, but overachieving

What is the excuse for this team not playing better?

Oh yes, they don't have Cam on their team and they actually go out and help their rookie QB win for the team instead of feeling that the rookie QB is suppose to carry the team. When ur QB as almost as many rushing yds and tds as the offensive side of his team that's not good.

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First off, I didn't say he didn't have anyone. I said it seems he's more throwing to inconsistant receivers and doesn't have a consistant receivers like Ponder and AP or Andy and A.J. Green.

Smitty is pretty damn consistent. Stew has far more receiving yards than AP. Olsen, Shockey are both great receiving options. Our offense has plenty of help for Cam.

Did u see the Bengals/ Sea Hawks game? Andy has a lot of room to fug up and still pull out a win because he has people around him who understands that he is a rookie QB. Cam isn't afforded such luxury. He's playing on a team who seems to now feel it's his job to carry them. He shouldn't be forced to win games by himself. That alone should make u wonder what is really going on with the decision making and this team. What's on paper clearly isn't matching what is happening on the field.

I don't know what you mean by this - I don't think anyone thinks Cam should win games by himself, but no matter how good our offense is, it needs help from the other sides of the ball to win.

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Andy Dalton AND the Cincinnati Bengals are 5-2. Cam and the Carolina Panthers are 2-6 (so first off, get the records right).

See there is this thing that is called a team. And the TEAM (not just one player) has to play well to win football games. Therefore, you can't determine how good a QB is by wins alone.

Think about this, if its all about wins, why is 30-17 Vince Young a BACKUP QB right now?[/QUOTE]

Because everyone marvel at how good he was at carrying the Vikings to their victories but forgot about him as soon as he stopped delivery those wins because he was NEVER truly part of the team. Something tells me the same will happen to Cam.

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