Terry Bradshaw ranked Dalton ahead of Cam...

[Camdemonium]

Yes and Cam scored 21 points and 21>14! I agree the one before the half was a killer but those things are going to happen and it happend at midfield so your defense gets a chance to at least hold them to a field goal and they couldn't.

So as long as he scores more points than he gives up to the other team, it's all good?

Do you not see how assbackwards that logic is?

#NewPantherFans

[Pantherball]

Yes and Cam scored 21 points and 21>14! I agree the one before the half was a killer but those things are going to happen and it happend at midfield so your defense gets a chance to at least hold them to a field goal and they couldn't.

So basically Cam resulted in a net 7 points for us yesterday. Awesome stuff. All we need is a defense that can hold teams to 6 points or under for 50 minutes of the game and we're golden.

If that's what this fan base thinks is going to lead us to winning, I foresee a lot of hate for the D for a long time. Forever maybe. Or until they stop drinking Cam juice.

Whichever comes first.

PS: If you want that...then talk Hurney into trading Cam, for 3 draft pics and Su and draft every top defensive player on the board and forget about having an offense. And then ask him to bring back John Fox. You might get a chance to have that but I'm not sure if it's going to get you W's.

[Camdemonium]

Well see, I don't have anything to do with posters on this board. They range from A-Z, Smart/Dumb/In between. All of that. And I'm not fickle, If I have been point it out and I'll accept it.

Nope.

He deserves some blame, that's all. He deserves credit and blame. It's simple. It's easy.

I just enjoy noting differences in reactions from posters who seem to be emotionally invested in player A vs player B. Not saying you are one of them because I don't think you are, but it's pretty clear lately that Cam will shoulder no blame, ever.

#Toobigtofail

[Dpantherman]

I willing to agree to that.

[X-Clown]

So basically Cam resulted in a net 7 points for us yesterday. Awesome stuff. All we need is a defense that can hold teams to 6 points or under for 50 minutes of the game and we're golden.

If that's what this fan base thinks is going to lead us to winning, I foresee a lot of hate for the D for a long time. Forever maybe. Or until they stop drinking Cam juice.

Whichever comes first.

PS: If you want that...then talk Hurney into trading Cam, for 3 draft pics and Su and draft every top defensive player on the board and forget about having an offense. And then ask him to bring back John Fox. You might get a chance to have that but I'm not sure if it's going to get you W's.

If only he could be as good as The Golden Calf of Bristol

/P4FL logic

[bigcatdaddy]

So basically Cam resulted in a net 7 points for us yesterday. Awesome stuff. All we need is a defense that can hold teams to 6 points or under for 50 minutes of the game and we're golden.

If that's what this fan base thinks is going to lead us to winning, I foresee a lot of hate for the D for a long time. Forever maybe. Or until they stop drinking Cam juice.

Whichever comes first.

PS: If you want that...then talk Hurney into trading Cam, for 3 draft pics and Su and draft every top defensive player on the board and forget about having an offense. And then ask him to bring back John Fox. You might get a chance to have that but I'm not sure if it's going to get you W's.

You do realize that our defense is 5th worst in points allowed right? QB's will make mistakes it's the defenses job to limit the damage that is done when that happens. Our problem is not the offense or Cam it is the D. Plain and simple.

[Jackofalltrades]

Where are the Bengals ranked in scoring? What is Dalton's TD:INT ration?

Being 5th ranked in yards per game means nothing to me since we're 15th in scoring.

D is another matter as far as winning is concerned.

[CatMan72]

Dalton has more wins than either P. Manning or Aikman did their rookie seasons, which means Dalton projects to be much better than either of these guys by TB's logic, right?

[rico6]

What the hell is going on in this thread.

[Camdemonium]

Where are the Bengals ranked in scoring? What is Dalton's TD:INT ration?

Being 5th ranked in yards per game means nothing to me since we're 15th in scoring.

D is another matter as far as winning is concerned.

Not sure what they are but they are better than Cam's.

He plays in a much more conservative offense so his numbers aren't going to be as eye popping as Cam's. They were much more focused on making the playoffs as opposed to having a QB win ROTY.

[HoFBound90]

cams the man. you can hate but it doesn't matter because you sounds stupid.

Terry Bradshaw is a moron.

[GritsRgreat]

Yep, Cinci is playing to win ball games while it looks to me like the Carolina coaching staff is all about making Cam look good. Hey, if that puts butts in the seats more power to them.

[Shaqil915]

He's about to lose the fuging team. One more press conference like that will do it. We're on the verge of a meltdown and if Rivera doesn't step in and takes the rains, things are about to seriously fall apart.

Ahh, and who might you be on the Panthers squad? Or are you just an locker room insider? ;)

[X-Clown]

Hey let's be Pantherball and check in on Andy Dalton's drives in the 2nd half yesterday since he's obviously such a more clutch performer than Cam Newton.

1) 3 and out

2) INT at the Seattle 39 yard line

3) INT at midfield

4) After starting at his own 38 (hello special teams), the running game picks up 18 yards, he completes a 4 yard pass and two defensive penalties lead to his kicker making a 48 yard FG

5) 3 kneel downs

4 of 11 passing for 34 yards, 2 INTs, in the 2nd half what a winner. Oh by the way, the Bengals got a punt return for a TD, and then an INT for a touchdown in the 4th quarter.