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Newton the Passer vs Newton the Runner

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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Yes I am a selective stat guy: I believe winning, overall passer rating and completion % matters more than yards when rating a QB. In that order.

You got me!

So Tony Romo must rate very high with you seeing as he excels in all of those selective stats. No matter what you believe, Dalton just doesnt have what Cameron has. He's a nice feel good story and is having a solid rookie campaign, but Cameron he is not. But hey, if your pride rests on Andy Dalton's shoulders so be it. LOL.

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dude listen to yourself, I like to believe you are better than this...

you just said you can't expect a black QB to be consistent or accurate like a white QB. I don't care if that's "history and precedent," (which are totally riddled with bias and overt racism) it's also bullpoo.

"I'm not being racist, blacks just aren't very good at xyz"

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So Tony Romo must rate very high with you seeing as he excels in all of those selective stats. No matter what you believe, Dalton just doesnt have what Cameron has. He's a nice feel good story and is having a solid rookie campaign, but Cameron he is not. But hey, if your pride rests on Andy Dalton's shoulders so be it. LOL.

LOL. You must have missed by discussion on clutch and 4th quarter comebacks.

Yet another reason I don't believe Cam deserves the label yet.

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I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue Warren Moon was inaccurate, monstercat. Whether or not he was as accurate, more accurate, less accurate than Tom Brady and Manning would be an extremely poor comparison to make because the league has changed so greatly since Moon played...

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dude listen to yourself, I like to believe you are better than this...

you just said you can't expect a black QB to be consistent or accurate like a white QB. I don't care if that's "history and precedent," (which are totally riddled with bias and overt racism) it's also bullpoo.

"I'm not being racist, blacks just aren't very good at xyz"

Really does me not expecting every white rap artist to make it in hip-hop and rap also make me racist?

Cause I do. I would just call that predicting based on historical fact and having some freaking common sense.

Does me expecting a team that starts 1-5 to miss the playoffs make me a Panther hater?

I could go on and on.

PS: You out of all people should know me better. I'm a realist, fact based and performance based fan. How critical was I of Clausen last year?

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Really does me not expecting every white rap artist to make it in hip-hop and rap also make me racist?

I'd say if that white artist gets signed to a major label after having a very successful career in uh... some kind of minor label... yeah I'm out of my element here. The point is, you might not expect 5 random white dudes to be great at hip hop, but you might not expect 5 random black dudes either. If the white dudes have made it to the point where they can "reach the top," why should you assume that they're going to fail just because they're white? Why should you pass judgment on their songs based on their skin color?

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I'd say if that white artist gets signed to a major label after having a very successful career in uh... some kind of minor label... yeah I'm out of my element here. The point is, you might not expect 5 random white dudes to be great at hip hop, but you might not expect 5 random black dudes either. If the white dudes have made it to the point where they can "reach the top," why should you assume that they're going to fail just because they're white? Why should you pass judgment on their songs based on their skin color?

No but I can make a pretty solid prediction that the next 8 out of the next 9 top hip artists WILL be black.

fug time to watch the game. Cam just had a turn-over and YOU KNOW how I feel about turnovers. I'm racist as fug towards turn-overs;)

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