Trent Dilfer on Cam Newton Transcript

[Miaoww]

Case and point... One Andrew Luck

Don't ever play the race card, but I think it's more than obvious at this point.

Why is it that all we've heard about all week is The Golden Calf of Bristol???? Last time I checked He doesn't lead in any QB statistical category. I believe that Cam leads in at least 5.

Just sayin

Because Luck is a big, mobile, strong armed QB running the pro offence of one of the best teams in college to perfection.

In contrast, Newton was a big, strong armed QB running a gimmicky spread option offence on the best team in college football to perfection.

The difference - nobody knew how he'd translate to a pro system. It's not about race, it never has been.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Another good thread ruined in the span of a couple hours.

[predryder226]

Best part of watching black athletes on TV is you know that crime will be a little less for those few hours while there playing their game.

Hahaha i just thought I would chime in with some ridiculous racism stuff.

[mav1234]

cmon no one gave Cam a chance because he is a minority at his position. I guarentee u if Cam was white when he came out of college, there wouldnt have been much speculation on taking him #1 etc.

just a question, were you living under a rock since January?

Cam's offense and past history were 100% to do with why the majority of people were concerned with taking him #1. It's a credit to him that, despite having so little experience in any kind of pro system, he has been so impressive in the pros. Props to Cam for that.

@TCF: Were you the new guy that everyone was fuging with back in the day and you were convinced that TRD was Matt Moore....I think Mav was there.

That was classic...so I heard

I was sad when my attempts to convince people that TRD was an alter ego of Jimmy Clausen failed.

Would explain all that "inside info" ;)

[footballisasport]

Because Luck is a big, mobile, strong armed QB running the pro offence of one of the best teams in college to perfection.

In contrast, Newton was a big, strong armed QB running a gimmicky spread option offence on the best team in college football to perfection.

The difference - nobody knew how he'd translate to a pro system. It's not about race, it never has been.

Tell that to one of the Bengal fans who posted on a "Cam Sucks" thread on their site, that Luck was a better QB than Cam because he was white and went to an elite college...As ignorant as that sound, some folks do see race as reason for Cam not being able to succeed as an elite QB in the NFL. There is no getting around that.

And let's be real...No one knows how Luck is going to work out either but considering Cam beat him in every QB catagory during college, it should have been only fair that he was given a chance by the media. Luck isn't playing pro football. He's playing college football. No matter what type of offense he's part of, he still has to prove himself.

Why was Cam constantly told that college and the NFL were not the same. Now we're saying that Luck shouldn't have a hardtime adjusting...hmmmm..Like how many QB who came from a pro offense, are elite QBs in the NFL?

[Tarheels23]

cmon no one gave Cam a chance because he is a minority at his position. I guarentee u if Cam was white when he came out of college, there wouldnt have been much speculation on taking him #1 etc.

And Lebron has won how many championships? I'll pass on Cam.

So did race play a factor on why you said you'll pass on Cam?

[TruCatzFan]

@TCF: Were you the new guy that everyone was fuging with back in the day and you were convinced that TRD was Matt Moore....I think Mav was there.

That was classic...so I heard

I think you already know the answer to this question...

And yes, u played it perfectly. An instant Huddle Classic

[pdandy1994]

We're extremely LUCKy to have Cam

[mav1234]

Tell that to one of the Bengal fans who posted on a "Cam Sucks" thread on their site, that Luck was a better QB than Cam because he was white and went to an elite college...As ignorant as that sound, some folks do see race as reason for Cam not being able to succeed as an elite QB in the NFL. There is no getting around that.

Now, I don't think anyone here would say "there isn't a single fan in the NFL who isn't racist!!", but there's a big difference between saying "Some random idiot on the Bengals forum hates black QBs" and saying "the reason Cam wasn't consensus #1 overall pick from the second he entered the draft was 'cause he was black." There's a gigantic difference between the two. Likewise, saying the only reason Luck is looked at as the consensus #1 right now and was #1 last year as well is because he's a white QB is silly.

The draft is always a bit of a crap shoot, but evaluation of players is made easier when the offense they play in allows for the showcasing of skillsets that are applicable to NFL offenses or when a player has played in an offense long enough you can get an idea of how they improve from year to year and how they play the position. The reason the Panthers wanted Cam's Blinn stuff is because they wanted to see as much of him as they could... there was very little film out there on him in relation to a guy like Luck. Cam also knew this, and that's why he had his media workout and threw at the combine. He wanted there to be as much film of him as possible for potential drafters to look over.

[footballisasport]

just a question, were you living under a rock since January?

Cam's offense and past history were 100% to do with why the majority of people were concerned with taking him #1. It's a credit to him that, despite having so little experience in any kind of pro system, he has been so impressive in the pros. Props to Cam for that.

Would explain all that "inside info" ;)

FYI, the lap-top incident was not some uncovered scandal that the sports media stumble upon during the Draft. Cam talked about it on an ESPN special that was aired in Sept 2010. He wasn't hiding it. But, I guess since the media were looking for evidence to show Cam wasn't worthy of the number one pick, the lap-top incident and whatever else they could find became the perfect weapons used against him.

Bet u dollars to donuts that if the Panthers didn't take him, Cam wouldn't have fallen out of the top five. Honestly, the vibe I felt surround him was the media was hell-bent on painting him one way, while the teams who actually met with him saw him differently.

[footballisasport]

Now, I don't think anyone here would say "there isn't a single fan in the NFL who isn't racist!!", but there's a big difference between saying "Some random idiot on the Bengals forum hates black QBs" and saying "the reason Cam wasn't consensus #1 overall pick from the second he entered the draft was 'cause he was black." There's a gigantic difference between the two. Likewise, saying the only reason Luck is looked at as the consensus #1 right now and was #1 last year as well is because he's a white QB is silly.

The draft is always a bit of a crap shoot, but evaluation of players is made easier when the offense they play in allows for the showcasing of skillsets that are applicable to NFL offenses or when a player has played in an offense long enough you can get an idea of how they improve from year to year and how they play the position. The reason the Panthers wanted Cam's Blinn stuff is because they wanted to see as much of him as they could... there was very little film out there on him in relation to a guy like Luck. Cam also knew this, and that's why he had his media workout and threw at the combine. He wanted there to be as much film of him as possible for potential drafters to look over.

I don't believe it was because Cam was black but I do believe the elite folks in our media had the QB they wanted to be drafted first and Cam stood in their way. They do it every draft season. Like, seriously, does Blaine look more NFL ready than Andy, and Ponder? Nevermind Cam.

His race made it easy to stereotype him. Just like The Golden Calf of Bristol's faith was use against him during the draft. Our media are as shallow as they come. Let's not call what they're doing anything more than what it is...baiting.

I will bet u now that the talking heads will be crowing that the 2012 QB class will be the BEST class ever...Why...because they got the QB they want in the draft if Luck enters.

[Snake]

I love how the media is trying to infer that The Golden Calf of Bristol is going to become Cam in a few games. Cam is Cam and no one is going to best him at that.

[Gazi]

I also didn't think Cam was gonna be #1 and was not a top 10 pick, but it had everything to do with their offense in Auburn and Florida. Nothing to do with race. I also didn't think The Golden Calf of Bristol was worthy of a first round pick.

I'm rooting for both of them to succeed, of course. Cam is already greatness. We are very, very lucky to have him in Charlotte. I hope The Golden Calf of Bristol pulls thru as well.

btw, Bo Knows FOOTBALL

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/67029-bo-jackson-on-cam-newton.html

[fieryprophet]

OK, guys, this thread has gotten stupid with all the racial aspects brought into it. I've said it once and I'll say it again: I'm whiter than white-out, but once I saw Cam lead Auburn past Alabama I knew that I wanted him over anyone, including Andrew Luck. The crap about his dad barely registered with me, because I frankly despise the supreme hypocrisy of organizations like the NCAA profiting off of their "student-athletes" yet crying foul about money in the game, and the laptop incident was a closed case. Outside of that, Cam was personable, calm, intelligent and had otherworldly physical talent.

There was only one analyst that I felt truly crossed the racist line with Cam, and that was the absolutely disgusting insinuation from Nolan Nawrocki from PFW that his smile was "fake." The rest of them had either valid concerns about his mechanics, spread offense history, or typical football concerns that despise any type of drama surrounding a prospect (such as the following behind The Golden Calf of Bristol, which a lot of analysts perceived as a red flag.) Some of them may have shown their ignorance of his talents in their assessments, but there was nothing racial about it, because they tore Ryan Mallet to pieces just as much as they did Cam.

So, while it fun to talk smack about the number of media talking heads that are eating their delicious crow, under no circumstances should any of them be accussed of racial bias, with my personal exception of that scumbag Nawrocki. But that was one douchebag, and there were also some analysts that liked what they saw from Cam, such as Dilfer.

The reality is, no one, not Warren Moon, not Trent Dilfer, not Skip Bayless, and sure as hell not Nolan Nawrocki; again, NO ONE could have predicted in their wildest dreams that Cam could have the start he is having right now. This is not a slight to him at all; this is an acknowledgement that he is a truly special, talented, and most importantly, hungry player that has succeeded on his own terms. To bring up race into the discussion is to tear at the remarkability of what he is doing, when we should all enjoy it for what it is: a star going supernova before our eyes.