Cam Newton Changing the way the quarterback position is played.

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or when Tony Romo makes his first career start

...or when McNair gets knocked out of the game and Kyle Boller comes in

[csx]

More teams are going to be looking at guys that are multidimensional and not just drop back passers. With the major changes in college football and high school football the pro style pocket passer is becoming more and more scarce.

That is why you see these sh*tty QBs get 1st round grades from draftniks just because they play in a pro style offense in college.

You better believe that all NFL scouts and coaches are keeping a close eye on how Cam Newton is used and whether things like the read option and pistol formations can be successful in the NFL with the right QB.

If Cam Newton continues to prove that it can you will see guys that come from these type of offenses will no longer be taboo to draft and suddenly a whole new world of talent at QB becomes available options to draft because they won't feel handcuffed to traditional NFL offenses and by default the traditional drop back passer. There will always be a premium on those guys but they simply exist less and less in today's amateur football landscape.

And changing the game doesn't happen over night. The change will be gradual, but if this offense becomes as effective as I think it will over the next couple of years with wrinkles like the read option, counter option, pistol formation triple option, etc (some of our biggest running plays this year has come out of these wrinkles). Other teams will mimic us.

And if our offense becomes as successful as I think it can there will be a shift in the attributes NFL front offices value when scouting college QBs.

The reason in my opinion that other QBs haven't revolutionized the game is because in the past the NFL has taken these athletic QB and tried to mold them to fit in a classic NFL offense.

I feel that in the very near future and because of guys like Cam Newton that there is going to be a complete reversal of this dynamic. Pretty soon NFL teams are going to mold their offenses to fit the athletic QB.

Mark this down. Within the next 10 years (and maybe even next year if Urban Meyer is hired by Miami) someone will bring a spread option or pistol type offense to the NFL. And if it is successful, athleticism and mobility which to this point has been viewed as a luxury for NFL quarterbacks will become a premium.

There is one caveat to all of this. In the NFL you have to be able to throw the ball and many athletic QBs are deficient in that area by NFL standards. But my opinion is that with the evolution of the college game there will be more and more guys like Cam Newton in the future. And a smart NFL team will start trying to figure out ways to capitalize on those players and their unique attributes instead of forcing them to adapt to the current offenses of the NFL.

And Cam Newton being successful as a duel threat QB (especially 3 years from now :eek:) will be a big part of that evolution.

One thing you cant ignore is the differance between college and pro. Colleges can recruit a multitude of athletic guys and since hey aren't staying more than 4 or so years anyway they can run them into the ground. If you base your pro offense around one of these guys and they get hurt then your team is in the pooter.

[teeray]

One thing you cant ignore is the differance between college and pro. Colleges can recruit a multitude of athletic guys and since hey aren't staying more than 4 or so years anyway they can run them into the ground. If you base your pro offense around one of these guys and they get hurt then your team is in the pooter.

That's true and I think that is why these offenses haven't come to the NFL sooner. But trust me if one team comes in and has big success with it the other teams will follow.

Plus with the advances in technology and weight training I don't think the risk is as great as it used to be. Oregon's QBs have been healthy over the years. The Golden Calf of Bristol was fine. Cam was fine. Kaepernick was fine. Pat White was healthy for 4 years.

In other words I haven't seen a big difference in teams running these offense having more injuries to their QBs in comparison to college teams running pro style offenses.

Also people said you couldn't run these offenses in BCS conferences for a long time and now most of the best teams in college are running them

[King Taharqa]

Cam along with guys like Vick are changing the game along with peoples attitudes about QBs. Not only are the strict stiff drop back passers a boring dying breed, but youre seeing people start to hold them to a higher standard as far as winning and performance. Seeing folks lowball some qbs and overhype others makes people question just how good some of these guys are. If its really hype and wishful thinking.

[KillerKat]

Only thing Vick changed were people's misconception that you actually have to know how to pass as well as run instead of just knowing how to run

[The Saltman]

Cam along with guys like Vick are changing the game along with peoples attitudes about QBs. Not only are the strict stiff drop back passers a boring dying breed, but youre seeing people start to hold them to a higher standard as far as winning and performance. Seeing folks lowball some qbs and overhype others makes people question just how good some of these guys are. If its really hype and wishful thinking.

meh, if it wasn't for Cam being able to be a pocket passer in the league already he would def not be as successful as he has been.

[Camdemonium]

Vick got his money and is already an afterthought in the NFL.

[Peppers90 NC]

Ugh :nonod:

There's always some writer or analyst who throws out the whole tired "changing the game" line, and they're just about always referencing a black quarterback.

News Flash: I'm pretty sure the game has seen quarterbacks who can both run and pass before. And they haven't all been white either.

I'd add that for the "game to be changed" as the theory goes, you'd need about a dozen more quarterbacks on the horizon that have Newton's combination of size, running and passing ability. How many can you name that fit that description?

Newton is a great quarterback, but he's not "changing the game". He's playing the game at a very high level, same as guys like Brett Favre, John Elway, Steve McNair and others did before him.

That's enough for me. I don't need the "game to be changed". I just need the guy who plays quarterback for us to be good at the game as it is.

Thank you. I was gonna say, how can he change the position when what he has is so rare?

[Peppers90 NC]

Cam along with guys like Vick are changing the game along with peoples attitudes about QBs. Not only are the strict stiff drop back passers a boring dying breed, but youre seeing people start to hold them to a higher standard as far as winning and performance. Seeing folks lowball some qbs and overhype others makes people question just how good some of these guys are. If its really hype and wishful thinking.

I dont really think Vick is really changing the game like Cam is, Vick is the best at what he does, but there are plenty of guys that fit his mold. Cam's mold is way too big for anyone else to fit in. Cam is going to be tough to game plan against because of his improv-to capabilities. I already believe he has picked up reading defenses way faster than most rookies have in the past.

[teeray]

Thank you. I was gonna say, how can he change the position when what he has is so rare?

Because it won't be as rare as the college and high school offenses continues to evolve toward the athlete at QB.

At some point the NFL will have to keep pace because traditional passers are becoming more and more scarce.

[Camdemonium]

:lol: More scarce?

Cam is a once in a decade mold and he hasn't even proved success yet, but he's off to a good start.

Peyton is and will be the measuring stick for a long time.

[teeray]

:lol: More scarce?

Cam is a once in a decade mold and he hasn't even proved success yet, but he's off to a good start.

Peyton is and will be the measuring stick for a long time.

If you look at the vast majority of the good teams across college football the last 5 years they have had the athletic QB. Auburn, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Utah (the year they beat Alabama and went 13-0)

And college teams are using that model more and more. Like Clemson this year.

Fairly soon in college and high school athletes at QB are going to become the preferred QB and the traditional pocket passers are going to become even more and more rare.

It is already happening which is why pooty QBs that play in pro style offenses get over valued at draft time every year and then everyone is shocked when they suck in the NFL.

It is because they are so rare now that if a guy in a pro style offense has even limited success in that system everyone acts like that he is "pro ready" but in reality they suck there just aren't many other QBs running that style of offense to compare them to so they get overrated and the guys playing in modern, exotic offenses are downgraded.

[csx]

Because it won't be as rare as the college and high school offenses continues to evolve toward the athlete at QB.

At some point the NFL will have to keep pace because traditional passers are becoming more and more scarce.

Colleges and much more so higschools have been using athletic QB's forever. There is nothing rare about it. Highchools almost always have their best athlete playing QB. Haven't you noticed how many receivers and running backs have QB experience? There is absolutely nothing new abou that.

[Camdemonium]

If you look at the vast majority of the good teams across college football the last 5 years they have had the athletic QB. Auburn, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Utah (the year they beat Alabama and went 13-0)

And college teams are using that model more and more. Like Clemson this year.

Fairly soon in college and high school athletes at QB are going to become the preferred QB and the traditional pocket passers are going to become more and more rare.

It is already happening which is why pooty QBs that play in pro style offenses get over valued at draft time every year and then everyone is shocked when they suck in the NFL.

You seem like a relatively new fan to the game of football. It's not that teams haven't tried to draft athletic QBs, it's just that they are largely terrible when they do.

Cam is unique. He's succeeding becasue he's making throws down the field.

:lol: at you putting Oregon in that list because of it's QB. Come on man. Maybe Dixon but he's a nobody anymore. It's all scheme and matchups in NCAA. Why do you think the big schools try and avoid playing good teams as much as they can? You don't get Alabama A&M School of Medicine in the NFL.

Utah hasn't been good for a while, probably since Smith was there, like 7 years ago.

Whole post stinks of fail.