Cam Newton Changing the way the quarterback position is played.

[footballisasport]

Ugh :nonod:

There's always some writer or analyst who throws out the whole tired "changing the game" line, and they're just about always referencing a black quarterback.

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I heard them reference it with The Golden Calf of Bristol. Does he count?

[pantherfan81]

I love how ESPN screwed up & endorsed a fake Cam twitter lmao

[4Corners]

I love how ESPN screwed up & endorsed a fake Cam twitter lmao

I missed that one, plz explain

[Mr. Scot]

Dilfer's not saying that teams will be looking for Newton-lites in the draft (although I'm sure some will take gambles in hopes they can find someone even remotely like him) but that Cam is demonstrating that supremely athletic quarterbacks actually can thrive as pocket passers if they have the drive and mental makeup that desires to do so.

And frankly, there have been athletic QBs even in recent years that showed those abilities, but it wasn't often that the most physically gifted player on the team was the quarterback.

He thinks Cam will help remove the stigma regarding the physicality of a player meaning that the player would not be mentally tough or astute enough to excel at the position. The game-changing aspect may be that future players see that Cam can be both a physical force and thrive in the traditional role of a quarterback, and desire to be quarterbacks rather than receivers or tight ends.

I don't think any such stigma exists.

There are well over a hundred starting quarterbacks in the college ranks right now. Probably close to two-hundred when you count the Division II schools and such (don't know the exact number). Out of that group, there might be ten or so who are good enough to start in the pros, maybe a few more who could be solid backups. The vast majority just aren't going to make it, athletic or not, because they just plain aren't good enough to be pros.

Now some of them who don't make it at QB are athletic enough to make it at some other position (John Lynch, Antwaan Randle-El) whereas for others QB is their only shot (Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf). But even back when I was playing, there was never a stigma for a QB being a good athlete.

[Jangler]

The Golden Calf of Bristol proved in one game....ONE GAME! that a QB only needs to play well for 3 minutes a game. That will change the game forever, teams will stick with shitty QBs longer.

[Mr. Scot]

I heard them reference it with The Golden Calf of Bristol. Does he count?

If anybody said that with The Golden Calf of Bristol, I missed it. I can't recall a single one.

I do remember several saying he wasn't a good enough passer to be a pro QB though.

(jury's still out, but looks more every day like they were right)

[whatever]

but but buttttttt he was supposed to be a TE

when Newton would come up on PFT before the draft, it was always pretty easy to spot the biggest idiots in the thread by looking for posts comparing him to Jamarcus Russell and/or claiming that his only shot at an NFL career would be at TE.

[pantherfan81]

I missed that one, plz explain

In the video they show his twitter handle as "@CameronNewton" :o

[tiger7_88]

The game-changing aspect may be that future players see that Cam can be both a physical force and thrive in the traditional role of a quarterback, and desire to be quarterbacks rather than receivers or tight ends.

Actually, I attribute that more to their coaches, especially at the high school and college level, than I do the athletes themselves.

I think the big, strong, athletic kids who play QB at the junior football and middle-school level would probably LOVE to keep playing QB in high school and college. Many times the traditional-mindedness of their coaches will inevitably move them to a position where their size is more football-typical.

[whatever]

but his game/skill set doesn't really compare to any other QBs. the only reason that he won't "change the game" is because there's only one Cam Newton and i doubt that Jerry Richardson would be too keen on letting another team clone him.

when he reaches his full potential, this topic will only be coming up more and more. might as well get used to seeing it.

Ugh :nonod:

There's always some writer or analyst who throws out the whole tired "changing the game" line, and they're just about always referencing a black quarterback.

News Flash: I'm pretty sure the game has seen quarterbacks who can both run and pass before. And they haven't all been white either.

I'd add that for the "game to be changed" as the theory goes, you'd need about a dozen more quarterbacks on the horizon that have Newton's combination of size, running and passing ability. How many can you name that fit that description?

Newton is a great quarterback, but he's not "changing the game". He's playing the game at a very high level, same as guys like Brett Favre, John Elway, Steve McNair and others did before him.

That's enough for me. I don't need the "game to be changed". I just need the guy who plays quarterback for us to be good at the game as it is.

[rico6]

The game has most definitely never had a player like Newton before. That's a feat in its own.

[Mr. Scot]

but his game/skill set doesn't really compare to any other QBs. the only reason that he won't "change the game" is because there's only one Cam Newton and i doubt that Jerry Richardson would be too keen on letting another team clone him.

when he reaches his full potential, this topic will only be coming up more and more. might as well get used to seeing it.

I don't know that his skill set is as unique as people think. We've had guys like Steve Young, John Elway and others that were just as good a running threat as Newton (honestly, Steve Young was probably a more dangerous runner).

But accepting that notion, it's odd when people posit that one unique player will "change the game". Look at what Peyton Manning can do. That would certainly be 'game changing"...if there were a bunch more Peyton's out there on the horizon.

Reality: There might be one, and it took over 20 years for that one to show up.

How long before another player like Newton shows up?

[whatever]

yes there has

who? the only QB in my lifetime that i could compare him to would probably be Elway. and even there, Elway was pretty mobile for his size, but i don't think that many DCs had to worry about game planning to stop Elway from running the football.

Cunningham and Vick are dual threats but Vick's accuracy has been pretty spotty during most of his career and neither of them had the frame to be physical runners.

[Mr. Scot]

who? the only QB in my lifetime that i could compare him to would probably be Elway. and even there, Elway was pretty mobile for his size, but i don't think that many DCs had to worry about game planning to stop Elway from running the football.

Cunningham and Vick are dual threats but Vick's accuracy has been pretty spotty during most of his career and neither of them had the frame to be physical runners.

Neither Cunningham nor Vick was ever a good enough passer to be considered a true dual threat.

The most complete dual threat I've seen in my lifetime was Steve Young. Others have been guys like Elway, Steve McNair and Fran Tarkenton. I thought Garrard would be eventually but he wasn't that great a run threat. And I suppose Vince Young could have been if not for that loose wire in his head.

There are probably others I'm forgetting, but those are the ones that come to mind.