Panther fans being called out again

[Shufdog]

"Or we could just kill all the yankees "

THIS^^^

Its so fugin anoying. I hate going into a bar and seeing it decked out with Giants/steelers fans. Some are okay in the fact they say something like" I grew up in NY but I pull for the panthers after the giants since I live here".

The ones that enrage me say something like "Oh im a steelers fan and I hate the panthers hahaha"

At church one day some guy was wearing a bengals jursey but his daughter was wearing a smitty jersey.Hopefully after another generation our roots can grow deeper.

Football jerseys at church? :confused:

[Godfather151981]

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Redskin fan (in the DC area). I read other teams' boards (especially our opponents) from time to time however, and I stumbled upon this thread. I considered going to this game myself, but I coudn't find anyone that wanted to make the trip so I watched it at a sportsbar as I do most away games. I'm a Skins season-ticket holder, and I rarely miss a game; we have the same problem at our stadium. Three years ago we played the Steelers on a now infamous Monday night and the number of yellow towels waving that night were embarrassing. It isn't so much the sheer number of away fans, but the fact that the media seems to love picking up on it. We're still hearing about it now three years later. Unfortunately the Cowboys also have a big fan base in the DC area, so when they come to town their fans always come out of the woodwork. And NY/Philly are close, so we get a good dosage of their fans as well. The worst part is that in the Redskins' case the stadium is (in theory) sold out every week. So for a Dallas fan to get a ticket, he in essence has to buy one from a Skins fan. If you're selling a ticket on ebay/stub hub for big money, odds are it's not a Redskin fan buying the ticket. The only time I've ever sold my tickets (my grandmother was dying), I did so on craigslist and I specified that the buyer would have to show up wearing Skins garb, and answer my Redskins trivia questions in order to get the seats. I don't sell to opposing fans, but most people don't really care about that. I resent the fact that my buddy and I sit in the same seats each week and we get taunted by opposing fans because some d-bag didn't have enough courtesy to sell to a hometown fan.

The worst part is that there's nothing that anyone can do about it. In fact, the NFL wants this to happen; if they could have games with a 70:30 or 60:40 home:away ratio consistently, they'd be thrilled. Also keep in mind that people move around the country more and more nowadays for work reasons. Furthermore, I firmly believe that programs such as NFL Sunday ticket and MLB Xtra Innings have ruined what was once called home field advantage. It used to be that the home team (in any sport) was the only team that was consistently shown in that market. So most people grew up rooting for the home team because they had the most exposure on television. However now if you buy the Sunday Ticket, you can see the Steelers in DC or Charlotte as easily as you can the Skins or Panthers. So whereas even in the past if the home team wasn't so hot, you still rooted for them because you saw them every week. However now someone can root for anyone they want (a winning team) and have just as much access to seeing them play. So it's not so ridiculous to assume that someone who grows up in Arizona might be a Steeler fan, or that someone in Chicago could grow up rooting for the Patriots. Why root for the home team when you don't have to? Having said that, I'll be a Redskin fan forever regardless of how good or bad they are. Loyalty means a lot to me.

[pstall]

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Redskin fan (in the DC area). I read other teams' boards (especially our opponents) from time to time however, and I stumbled upon this thread. I considered going to this game myself, but I coudn't find anyone that wanted to make the trip so I watched it at a sportsbar as I do most away games. I'm a Skins season-ticket holder, and I rarely miss a game; we have the same problem at our stadium. Three years ago we played the Steelers on a now infamous Monday night and the number of yellow towels waving that night were embarrassing. It isn't so much the sheer number of away fans, but the fact that the media seems to love picking up on it. We're still hearing about it now three years later. Unfortunately the Cowboys also have a big fan base in the DC area, so when they come to town their fans always come out of the woodwork. And NY/Philly are close, so we get a good dosage of their fans as well. The worst part is that in the Redskins' case the stadium is (in theory) sold out every week. So for a Dallas fan to get a ticket, he in essence has to buy one from a Skins fan. If you're selling a ticket on ebay/stub hub for big money, odds are it's not a Redskin fan buying the ticket. The only time I've ever sold my tickets (my grandmother was dying), I did so on craigslist and I specified that the buyer would have to show up wearing Skins garb, and answer my Redskins trivia questions in order to get the seats. I don't sell to opposing fans, but most people don't really care about that. I resent the fact that my buddy and I sit in the same seats each week and we get taunted by opposing fans because some d-bag didn't have enough courtesy to sell to a hometown fan.

The worst part is that there's nothing that anyone can do about it. In fact, the NFL wants this to happen; if they could have games with a 70:30 or 60:40 home:away ratio consistently, they'd be thrilled. Also keep in mind that people move around the country more and more nowadays for work reasons. Furthermore, I firmly believe that programs such as NFL Sunday ticket and MLB Xtra Innings have ruined what was once called home field advantage. It used to be that the home team (in any sport) was the only team that was consistently shown in that market. So most people grew up rooting for the home team because they had the most exposure on television. However now if you buy the Sunday Ticket, you can see the Steelers in DC or Charlotte as easily as you can the Skins or Panthers. So whereas even in the past if the home team wasn't so hot, you still rooted for them because you saw them every week. However now someone can root for anyone they want (a winning team) and have just as much access to seeing them play. So it's not so ridiculous to assume that someone who grows up in Arizona might be a Steeler fan, or that someone in Chicago could grow up rooting for the Patriots. Why root for the home team when you don't have to? Having said that, I'll be a Redskin fan forever regardless of how good or bad they are. Loyalty means a lot to me.

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[beastson]

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Redskin fan (in the DC area). I read other teams' boards (especially our opponents) from time to time however, and I stumbled upon this thread. I considered going to this game myself, but I coudn't find anyone that wanted to make the trip so I watched it at a sportsbar as I do most away games. I'm a Skins season-ticket holder, and I rarely miss a game; we have the same problem at our stadium. Three years ago we played the Steelers on a now infamous Monday night and the number of yellow towels waving that night were embarrassing. It isn't so much the sheer number of away fans, but the fact that the media seems to love picking up on it. We're still hearing about it now three years later. Unfortunately the Cowboys also have a big fan base in the DC area, so when they come to town their fans always come out of the woodwork. And NY/Philly are close, so we get a good dosage of their fans as well. The worst part is that in the Redskins' case the stadium is (in theory) sold out every week. So for a Dallas fan to get a ticket, he in essence has to buy one from a Skins fan. If you're selling a ticket on ebay/stub hub for big money, odds are it's not a Redskin fan buying the ticket. The only time I've ever sold my tickets (my grandmother was dying), I did so on craigslist and I specified that the buyer would have to show up wearing Skins garb, and answer my Redskins trivia questions in order to get the seats. I don't sell to opposing fans, but most people don't really care about that. I resent the fact that my buddy and I sit in the same seats each week and we get taunted by opposing fans because some d-bag didn't have enough courtesy to sell to a hometown fan.

The worst part is that there's nothing that anyone can do about it. In fact, the NFL wants this to happen; if they could have games with a 70:30 or 60:40 home:away ratio consistently, they'd be thrilled. Also keep in mind that people move around the country more and more nowadays for work reasons. Furthermore, I firmly believe that programs such as NFL Sunday ticket and MLB Xtra Innings have ruined what was once called home field advantage. It used to be that the home team (in any sport) was the only team that was consistently shown in that market. So most people grew up rooting for the home team because they had the most exposure on television. However now if you buy the Sunday Ticket, you can see the Steelers in DC or Charlotte as easily as you can the Skins or Panthers. So whereas even in the past if the home team wasn't so hot, you still rooted for them because you saw them every week. However now someone can root for anyone they want (a winning team) and have just as much access to seeing them play. So it's not so ridiculous to assume that someone who grows up in Arizona might be a Steeler fan, or that someone in Chicago could grow up rooting for the Patriots. Why root for the home team when you don't have to? Having said that, I'll be a Redskin fan forever regardless of how good or bad they are. Loyalty means a lot to me.

Very true

[SCP]

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Redskin fan (in the DC area). I read other teams' boards (especially our opponents) from time to time however, and I stumbled upon this thread. I considered going to this game myself, but I coudn't find anyone that wanted to make the trip so I watched it at a sportsbar as I do most away games. I'm a Skins season-ticket holder, and I rarely miss a game; we have the same problem at our stadium. Three years ago we played the Steelers on a now infamous Monday night and the number of yellow towels waving that night were embarrassing. It isn't so much the sheer number of away fans, but the fact that the media seems to love picking up on it. We're still hearing about it now three years later. Unfortunately the Cowboys also have a big fan base in the DC area, so when they come to town their fans always come out of the woodwork. And NY/Philly are close, so we get a good dosage of their fans as well. The worst part is that in the Redskins' case the stadium is (in theory) sold out every week. So for a Dallas fan to get a ticket, he in essence has to buy one from a Skins fan. If you're selling a ticket on ebay/stub hub for big money, odds are it's not a Redskin fan buying the ticket. The only time I've ever sold my tickets (my grandmother was dying), I did so on craigslist and I specified that the buyer would have to show up wearing Skins garb, and answer my Redskins trivia questions in order to get the seats. I don't sell to opposing fans, but most people don't really care about that. I resent the fact that my buddy and I sit in the same seats each week and we get taunted by opposing fans because some d-bag didn't have enough courtesy to sell to a hometown fan.

The worst part is that there's nothing that anyone can do about it. In fact, the NFL wants this to happen; if they could have games with a 70:30 or 60:40 home:away ratio consistently, they'd be thrilled. Also keep in mind that people move around the country more and more nowadays for work reasons. Furthermore, I firmly believe that programs such as NFL Sunday ticket and MLB Xtra Innings have ruined what was once called home field advantage. It used to be that the home team (in any sport) was the only team that was consistently shown in that market. So most people grew up rooting for the home team because they had the most exposure on television. However now if you buy the Sunday Ticket, you can see the Steelers in DC or Charlotte as easily as you can the Skins or Panthers. So whereas even in the past if the home team wasn't so hot, you still rooted for them because you saw them every week. However now someone can root for anyone they want (a winning team) and have just as much access to seeing them play. So it's not so ridiculous to assume that someone who grows up in Arizona might be a Steeler fan, or that someone in Chicago could grow up rooting for the Patriots. Why root for the home team when you don't have to? Having said that, I'll be a Redskin fan forever regardless of how good or bad they are. Loyalty means a lot to me.

Yes, I remember that Steeler game and I notice it when they televise the Skins vs. Eagles/Giants/Cowboys. Good post, I'm glad I'm not the only one that hates this crap. Like you, if I have to miss a Panther game, I'd rather my seat go empty and lose money than sell to an opposing fan.

[Godfather151981]

Yes, I remember that Steeler game and I notice it when they televise the Skins vs. Eagles/Giants/Cowboys. Good post, I'm glad I'm not the only one that hates this crap. Like you, if I have to miss a Panther game, I'd rather my seat go empty and lose money than sell to an opposing fan.

I suppose what I'm kind of saying is that this kind of thing is getting less and less embarrassing (even though in my original post I used that term). It's happening more and more around sports in general. The Capitals' owner (Ted Leonsis) successfully put a stop to it a few years ago during the NHL playoffs. If your credit card was registered to a Pittsburgh or Philadelphia address/phone number, you weren't allowed to purchase tickets to games at the Verizon Center. People in PA raised a huge stink, but there was nothing they could do about it. Those kinds of tactics are admittedly draconian (and quite honestly I was surprised that nobody filed a discrimination lawsuit), however they worked. The playoff games in question had little to no visiting fan presence. Furthermore, I think the fan base saw that Mr. Leonsis did something to "protect" the hometown fans, and they responded by buying tickets. (Admittedly the team's been pretty good the last few years also.) My point there is that anyone who says that hometown fans aren't being displaced by visitors is wrong. Hometown fans want to go to games for the most part, but many times the tickets aren't available because they're bought up by visitors well in advance. Ask a Milwaukee Brewers' fan trying to get a ticket when the Cubbies come to town...

There's a part of me that was glad to see the shoe on the other foot for once with regard to the Redskins, however I also felt badly for your fan base because we're in that position all the time as well and I know what that's like.

[csx]

I suppose what I'm kind of saying is that this kind of thing is getting less and less embarrassing (even though in my original post I used that term). It's happening more and more around sports in general. The Capitals' owner (Ted Leonsis) successfully put a stop to it a few years ago during the NHL playoffs. If your credit card was registered to a Pittsburgh or Philadelphia address/phone number, you weren't allowed to purchase tickets to games at the Verizon Center. People in PA raised a huge stink, but there was nothing they could do about it. Those kinds of tactics are admittedly draconian (and quite honestly I was surprised that nobody filed a discrimination lawsuit), however they worked. The playoff games in question had little to no visiting fan presence. Furthermore, I think the fan base saw that Mr. Leonsis did something to "protect" the hometown fans, and they responded by buying tickets. (Admittedly the team's been pretty good the last few years also.) My point there is that anyone who says that hometown fans aren't being displaced by visitors is wrong. Hometown fans want to go to games for the most part, but many times the tickets aren't available because they're bought up by visitors well in advance. Ask a Milwaukee Brewers' fan trying to get a ticket when the Cubbies come to town...

There's a part of me that was glad to see the shoe on the other foot for once with regard to the Redskins, however I also felt badly for your fan base because we're in that position all the time as well and I know what that's like.

I know they used to do this with the Panthers presale on tickemaster. I'm guessing they still do. It had to be a NC/SC billing address.

[SCP]

I know they used to do this with the Panthers presale on tickemaster. I'm guessing they still do. It had to be a NC/SC billing address.

Really, I didn't know that. Unfortunately, most of the Cowboy, Steeler, and Skins fans have the NC/SC address. Now that also applies to Bills, Browns, and Eagles fans as more and more move down here.

[csx]

Really, I didn't know that. Unfortunately, most of the Cowboy, Steeler, and Skins fans have the NC/SC address. Now that also applies to Bills, Browns, and Eagles fans as more and more move down here.

It only applied to the pre-sale that they do on a Saturday morning (used to be at the end of July. I stopped buying tickets in advance since it's so damn easy and cheap to buy them day of.

[Happy Panther]

(and quite honestly I was surprised that nobody filed a discrimination lawsuit).

I doubt it was illegal.

[CatMan72]

I'm also curious as to how many people that showed up at the stadium in burgundy are also Panthers fans and would show up in blue for any other game?

[Godfather151981]

I doubt it was illegal.

I doubt it also, but you know how people can play opprotunists. At the very least it made me very happy to see Penguins and Flyers fans crowing about how unfair our owner was to them.

[Godfather151981]

I'm also curious as to how many people that showed up at the stadium in burgundy are also Panthers fans and would show up in blue for any other game?

That's not uncommon anymore. I also root for the Ravens on the side (even though I don't own any Ravens gear), as my family is from Baltimore and I'm also an Oriole fan. In this era of teams moving around, expansion, etc, people might well root for the new team that's now closer to their home, but it's also hard to let the old loyalties go by the wayside.

[Happy Panther]

I doubt it also, but you know how people can play opprotunists. At the very least it made me very happy to see Penguins and Flyers fans crowing about how unfair our owner was to them.

Agreed