Why i Support Jake as our QB

[dpanthersman]

we can all argue all day long about how good jake is or how bad jake is. and some of it i agree with and some of it i dont. i agree we need to look for a futre replacement for jake. i agree jake has had some bad games and makes some stupid throws at times. but at the end of the day theres only one thing that realy matters, jake is the leader of this team, the players support him they believe in him and we win games with him as our QB. below is a list of QB win percentages with a min of 10 starts at the start of the 2008 season. he doesnt have the best percentage but as far as active QBs goes hes far from the worse. so IMO we should follow the lead of the players on this team and support jake aslong as hes our QB. the minute hes benched or retired or traded we can all start hating him. but until that day comes its not gonna do anything but tick everybody off even worse. cause like it or not hes our QB

QUARTERBACK WINNING PERCENTAGES (at start of 2008 season, min. 10 starts)

Reg. season

Postseason

Total

Pct.

Tom Brady

86-24

14-3

100-27

.787

Philip Rivers

25-7

2-2

27-9

.750

Ben Roethlisberger

39-16

5-2

44-18

.710

Tony Romo 19-7 0-2 19-9 .679

Kyle Orton

12-6

0-0

12-6

.667

Donovan McNabb

73-39

7-5

80-44

.645

Peyton Manning

105-55

7-7

112-62

.644

Brett Favre 160-93 12-10 172-103 .625

Rex Grossman

19-11

2-2

21-13

.618

David Garrard

19-11

1-2

20-13

.606

Jake Delhomme

38-27

5-2

43-29

.597

Vince Young

17-11

0-1

17-12

.586

Damon Huard

14-10

0-0

14-10

.583

Brad Johnson

71-51

4-3

75-54

.581

Matt Hasselbeck

57-39

4-5

61-44

.581

Kurt Warner

48-37

5-2

53-39

.576

Tarvaris Jackson

8-6

0-0

8-6

.571

Eli Manning

30-25

4-2

34-27

.557

Derek Anderson

10-8

0-0

10-8

.556

Brian Griese

42-36

0-0

42-36

.538

Carson Palmer

32-29

0-0

32-29

.525

Marc Bulger

38-34

1-2

39-36

.520

Mark Brunell

78-72

5-5

83-77

.519

Drew Brees

47-43

1-2

48-45

.516

Chad Pennington

32-29

2-3

34-32

.515

Trent Green

56-56

0-2

56-58

.491

Jeff Garcia

52-53

2-4

54-57

.486

Todd Collins

10-10

0-1

10-11

.4762

Kyle Boller

20-22

0-0

20-22

.4762

A.J. Feeley

7-8

0-0

7-8

.467

Kerry Collins

67-82

3-3

70-85

.452

Gus Frerotte

37-44-1

0-2

37-46-1

.446

Charlie Batch

22-28

0-0

22-28

.440

Chris Simms

7-8

0-1

7-9

.4375

Matt Leinart

7-9

0-0

7-9

.4375

Jay Cutler

9-12

0-0

9-12

.429

Parick Ramsey

10-14

0-0

10-14

.417

Jon Kitna

46-65

0-2

46-67

.407

Anthony Wright

8-11

0-1

8-12

.400

Jason Campbell

8-12

0-0

8-12

.400

Chris Redman

4-6

0-0

4-6

.400

Josh McCown

12-19

0-0

12-19

.387

Alex Smith

11-19

0-0

11-19

.367

Joey Harrington

26-50

0-0

26-50

.342

J.P. Losman

10-21

0-0

10-21

.323

Kelly Holcomb

8-16

0-1

8-17

.320

Charlie Frye

6-13

0-0

6-13

.316

Matt Schaub

4-9

0-0

4-9

.308

Billy Volek

3-7

0-0

3-7

.300

David Carr

23-56

0-0

23-56

.291

Bruce Gradkowski

3-8

0-0

3-8

.273

Brooks Bollinger

2-8

0-0

2-8

.200

Ken Dorsey

2-8

0-0

2-8

.200

[pantherbiker]

Yes I agree.

[Fox007]

What's Jon Beasons record as starting MLB.

Or Steve Smith's record as a starting WR.

[CarolinaSock]

Any argument for a single player based on a TEAMS winning % is completely ignored by me. I'm pretty sure I saw 10 other guys on the field with Jake at all times and I don't recall ever seeing him line up on defense. Maybe I missed something.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Jake is our QB.

Jake will be our QB.

Jake is NOT a Top 10 QB (if you mesh together a million variables).

This is why people have issues with him.

But again, Jake is our QB.

Let's move on.

[Fox007]

Any argument for a single player based on a TEAMS winning % is completely ignored by me. I'm pretty sure I saw 10 other guys on the field with Jake at all times and I don't recall ever seeing him line up on defense. Maybe I missed something.

I agree, hence my stupid remarks above.

Trying to give QB's a W/L record, is one of the dumbest things in sports.

QB gets most of the credit, and most of the blame, that I can understand, but not total fuging credit for W or a L.

(unless you have 6 turnovers in one game which is too rare of a case to be normal)

[dpanthersman]

I agree, hence my stupid remarks above.

Trying to give QB's a W/L record, is one of the dumbest things in sports.

QB gets most of the credit, and most of the blame, that I can understand, but not total fuging credit for W or a L.

(unless you have 6 turnovers in one game which is too rare of a case to be normal)

i agree that u cant give all the credit to a QB for a win. but at the same time even if he has 6 turnovers you cant blam him completely for a loss...unless u expected him to go and cover larry fitsgerald.

[Cynonyte]

i guess we really have no choice..so its time to get over it... ive been reading this crap on here for days ..decided to sign up.. so HIGH!!!

[pantherj]

If Jake is the sole reason we lose in next season's playoffs, then I will call for his head until he's gone.

[Jangler]

Why i Support Jake as our QB

He's cute...

[solorca]

So you're saying that Jake Delhomme is at the same level as David Garrard, Damon Huard, Vince Young, and Brad Johnson?

Cool.

If you're going to make an argument, make one that doesn't put Jake in the same company as non-impressive QBs.

[mountainpantherfan]

I agree, hence my stupid remarks above.

Trying to give QB's a W/L record, is one of the dumbest things in sports.

QB gets most of the credit, and most of the blame, that I can understand, but not total fuging credit for W or a L.

(unless you have 6 turnovers in one game which is too rare of a case to be normal)

Thats true but the true comparison is the W-L record when Jake is the starter and when he isn't. I believe the Panthers need to upgrade the QB position but you can't say he isn't valuable compared to other QBs.

[dpanthersman]

So you're saying that Jake Delhomme is at the same level as David Garrard, Damon Huard, Vince Young, and Brad Johnson?

Cool.

If you're going to make an argument, make one that doesn't put Jake in the same company as non-impressive QBs.

im not saying that...cause i took the time to look at the number of games they have started compared to the number that jake has started. and saw that he has maintained a very good winning percentage over a much longer period of time than they have. so looking at it like that ( which most would) jake is alot better than those "non-impressive QBs you stated

but what im trying to say is that i would rather have a qb that is the leader of a realy good team, than a pro bowl qb that is the leader of a realy bad team

[mantal]

Only one reason to. Because he is.

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