/r/nfl trying to say Dalton deserves RoTY over Newton

[4Corners]

The people propping up The Golden Calf of Bristol, Clausen, Dalton, Luck, (any QB who is not the Panthers QB) as being better or more desirable are the ones really playing the race card over and over and over.

Every time I think you are going to make a valid point you go and do something like this. Grow up dude. You talk more about racial issues/racism than anyone on this board X100. I'm not going to deny that fact that there probably is a very,very microscopic fraction of fans who don't like Cam because he is black, but they are few and far between. It's like you assume we all have uncles in the KKK or something lol.

I don't know you, but I'd be willing to bet that you believe there is an ulterior motive when you have to wait to longer than five minutes for a table at a busy restaurant.

[footballisasport]

More king size bs. I'm interracial and the black side of my family that i love with all of my heart is far more racist than the other side. The race poo is over unless it is not with you (which it is not because that's where all of your posts go). As I stated earlier in this thread its about wins and that's it, not excuses just wins...

How do u make something that is real OVER. Boy, why are u folks so afraid to deal with what is part of the reality of this country. I simply don't get it.

IMO, the fact that folks get so bent out of shape and start labeling folks as racist simply for bring whats already out there to light, says u want to continue sticking ur head in the sand.

FYI, I'm black and I go with an Indian...Let me tell u, racism isn't a black and white issue...But it's REAL and u know what, SO IS LIFE...

[mcribbz]

I wouldn't want any young QB over Cam right now but that doesn't mean I am incapable of seeing the merit in another player's game.

Exactly, great post!!!

[GritsRgreat]

Dot or feather?

[mcribbz]

How do u make something that is real OVER. Boy, why are u folks so afraid to deal with what is part of the reality of this country. I simply don't get it.

IMO, the fact that folks get so bent out of shape and start labeling folks as racist simply for bring whats already out there to light, says u want to continue sticking ur head in the sand.

FYI, I'm black and I go with an Indian...Let me tell u, racism isn't a black and white issue...But it's REAL and u know what, SO IS LIFE...

My bad I was just trying to say football is a game, leave the poo about race at home. My head is not in the sand but I am not trying to solve real world problems I just want my team to win a game. And I am in no way bent out of shape I just get tired of the same guys cryin race every time someone has something less than positive about their hero. :rolleyes:

[footballisasport]

Cam/The Golden Calf of Bristol are a lot a like. Cam has a much better arm, but they both have similar games and are very polarizing athletes. You either like the guy or you don't. Some panther fans I know don't like Cam because of what he did to their Alma mater LY. A few friends I have who are non-religious/atheist/agnostic don't like The Golden Calf of Bristol for said reasons.

I still don't know why any carolina fans are talking about Luck. SMH.

Every time I think you are going to make a valid point you go and do something like this. Grow up dude. You talk more about racial issues/racism than anyone on this board X100. I'm not going to deny that fact that there probably is a very,very microscopic fraction of fans who don't like Cam because he is black, but they are few and far between. It's like you assume we all have uncles in the KKK or something lol.

I don't know you, but I'd be willing to bet that you believe there is an ulterior motive when you have to wait to longer than five minutes for a table at a busy restaurant.

It's a lot bigger than u think. Folks say a lot when the have the cyberspace for protection...Denying racism or any kind of ism is existance is defeatist attitude. Accepting it as part of the society and world we live in and rising above it makes u stronger than pretending it doesn't exist.

Folks are going to hate for reason ranging from what school he play for; because of his talent; whatever the media had to say about him and his father;, to even YES, the color of his skin. So what...

It is what it is. Why deny it. I honestly find it sort of amusing reading some of the stuff folks say on the internet while doing my research on Cam and a couple of the other rookies during the draft..

[4Corners]

It's a lot bigger than u think. Folks say a lot when the have the cyberspace for protection...Denying racism or any kind of ism is existance is defeatist attitude. Accepting it as part of the society and world we live in and rising above it makes u stronger than pretending it doesn't exist.

Folks are going to hate for reason ranging from what school he play for; because of his talent; whatever the media had to say about him and his father;, to even YES, the color of his skin. So what...

It is what it is. Why deny it. I honestly find it sort of amusing reading some of the stuff folks say on the internet while doing my research on Cam and a couple of the other rookies during the draft..

Like I said I know that there are racist assholes who don't like the guy because he is black. But not everyone is like that and just because someone might not like his throwing mechanics or attitude doesn't mean they are white supremacist.

[footballisasport]

My bad I was just trying to say football is a game, leave the poo about race at home. My head is not in the sand but I am not trying to solve real world problems I just want my team to win a game. And I am in no way bent out of shape I just get tired of the same guys cryin race every time someone has something less than positive about their hero. :rolleyes:

Don't quite know what ur talking about but folks being quick to accuse others who stating the obvious as "race baiters", IMO, are like that family with the troubled relative they don't want anyone to know about and lock them away in the basement. As soon as some says, do u hear that noise, the entire family start becoming defensive and accusatory.:incazzato::D

[4Corners]

there is one poster here who is a 'king' of race baiting.

[mcribbz]

Don't quite know what ur talking about but folks being quick to accuse others who stating the obvious as "race baiters", IMO, are like that family with the troubled relative they don't want anyone to know about and lock them away in the basement. As soon as some says, do u hear that noise, the entire family start becoming defensive and accusatory.:incazzato::D

Lets get this strait I want Cam to be successful because he is our qb. It is obvious that you and a couple of others definitely want him to win for other reasons. If you say that is false you need to read your own threads. This topic has gotten way off subject I'll see you later have a good one.:coolgleamA:

[footballisasport]

Like I said I know that there are racist assholes who don't like the guy because he is black. But not everyone is like that and just because someone might not like his throwing mechanics or attitude doesn't mean they are white supremacist.[/QUOTE]

My point of the posting was to show the polarizing of Cam vs Dalton. Cam being more negative; while Dalton's non-existant.

What I find funny is, no one got/gets bent out of shape when folks make the obvious statement that there a some who don't like The Golden Calf of Bristol, another athlete the media intentionally polarized, because of his beliefs. But guess what, if u paid attention, the media used his strong faith to bait him the same way they associated Cam with every negative black stereotype to bait him...But as soon as u point out that some of the hate directed at Cam is motivated by race...It's like..Hit the deck..In coming Torpedo...Why is that? It's only stating the obvious.

I guess I'm just comfortable in my skin that I can see things for what it is, speak on it, and not feel no way about it...:D

[mcribbz]

If you could see it for what it is you would at least hear everyone scream that The Golden Calf of Bristol cant throw a ball and he will be an afterthought by seasons end. Thats what I hear everywhere I turn anyway.

[Camdemonium]

To be honest, you can tell which posters are which race by the way they defend Cam Newton. Footballisasport is a perfect example.

[GritsRgreat]

I like The Golden Calf of Bristol as a person. I don't think he'll make it as an NFL QB but i've been wrong before. That being said i don't know why we are even talking about him in the topic because he's not a rookie.