/r/nfl trying to say Dalton deserves RoTY over Newton

[smitty_89]

Two points to put this argument to sleep:

1. The Bengals have played one playoff team from last year, the Colts. The Panthers have played four out of the six playoff teams from the NFC last year and Rodgers, Cutler, Brees and Ryan.

Ok, they beat the upstart Bills and stole that game. The Bills were also the victims of the tuck rule, just sayin'.

2. The Bengals defense is ranked 2nd in total defense and 7th in scoring defense. That might have something to do with Fitzpatrick being the best QB they've faced. (I'm realllllly hoping someone triest to argue that Alex Smith is a top QB nowadays)

When you look at it, this is kind of like comparing the SEC to the MWC.

Game. Set. Match.

[4Corners]

Cam is ROY. Everyone who isn't a Bengal, Saints, Bama, USC fan knows this.

[GritsRgreat]

Two points to put this argument to sleep:

1. The Bengals have played one playoff team from last year, the Colts. The Panthers have played four out of the six playoff teams from the NFC last year and Rodgers, Cutler, Brees and Ryan. Ok, they beat the upstart Bills and stole that game. The Bills were also the victims of the tuck rule, just sayin'.

2. The Bengals defense is ranked 2nd in total defense and 7th in scoring defense. That might have something to do with Fitzpatrick being the best QB they've faced. (I'm realllllly hoping someone triest to argue that Alex Smith is a top QB nowadays)

When you look at it, this is kind of like comparing the SEC to the MWC.

Last year was last year. Has nothing to do with this season. Rosters change. Now granted GB and NO are playing well but both ATL and CHI are struggling against good teams and may not get anywhere near the plyoffs this year.

[monstercat]

Let's see how Dalton does when his defense is giving up points left and right and the running game isn't working. He is averaging what, about 25 pass attempts per game?

[stirs]

You have to give Dalton his due.

A second round QB in a situation with a rookie WR and not many other famous names as his cast. Talk about a traditionally terrible team, the Bengals are it.

Cam, the first overall pick, very impressive in his first few games, exceeding all expectations, but topping out a bit. Has a better running game and better WR Corps and much better TE's.

Both have 7 TD's, but Cam has 9 int's vs 5 for Dalton.

Dalton getting better each week and don't sneeze at 4th qtr winning drives for a rookie.

Cam has more flash at the moment and if the voting were today, he would win. If the trend keeps up over the next couple of weeks, Dalton will be in the lead easily. If the Bengals win 10 games, it is over for Cam.

[GritsRgreat]

Yep,

Cam has the style, Dalton has the substance.

[fieryprophet]

When Dalton plays the Steelers and Ravens, then we'll talk.

Otherwise, he's doing great riding a fuggin' tricycle when Cam's having to be the entire bus.

[stirs]

When Dalton plays the Steelers and Ravens, then we'll talk.

Otherwise, he's doing great riding a fuggin' tricycle when Cam's having to be the entire bus.

Cam has better supporting cast and physical attributes than Dalton. Your posts are not in the realm of realism, we get it, you are a fan of Newton.

[King Taharqa]

When Dalton plays the Steelers and Ravens, then we'll talk.

Basically. Lets see how shines against the best in his division. Why are Panther fans siding with the Bengals QB? Jesus H. *shakes head*

[Kurb]

Basically. Lets see how shines against the best in his division. Why are Panther fans siding with the Bengals QB? Jesus H. *shakes head*

B/C they dont know how to be fans yet.

[GritsRgreat]

Because giving the guy a little credit is not siding with..

[King Taharqa]

Because giving the guy a little credit is not siding with..

Telling me Andy Dalton deserves ROY and has done more than Cam is siding with another QB over ours. Dalton only serves one purpose, next week, next year it'll be some other guy "who's better than Cam". Hell just in one offseason, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Clausen, Luck, Mallet, Gabbert. Its comical the constant search for someone to prop over our own QB.

[fieryprophet]

Because giving the guy a little credit is not siding with..

Dalton has done great. I loved the fact Cincy picked him up, I've watched the kid at TCU and he has a winning attitude and the moxie to run a team.

He's not in the same zipcode as Cam, athletically, talent-wise, or even in their current level of accomplishments. Fuggin' Pickles could have won three of the games the Bengals have played, and with Cam they would easily be 6-0 with that defense.

[X-Clown]

Because giving the guy a little credit is not siding with..

lol

Yes, you're giving a "little credit" to Dalton, with dozens and dozens of posts gushing about how phenomenal he has been his rookie season with plenty of backhanded shots at Cam mixed in. Not to mention how many anti-Cam, pro everybody else posts before the draft. Sounds more like a guy who's a fan of a team about 300 miles north of the Queen City rather than a Panther fan.