This isn't the season to go postal. You all knew it was going to be a work in progres

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Is it wrong to expect that, given how good we know the defense can play based on last year's performance, we would actually out-perform last year's team? Particularly with how Newton has wildly exceeded expectations?

Well the fact that it's a different defense entirely means you probably shouldn't expect it to be the same. Beason's gone. We have two rookie defensive tackles. For all the poo people gave Marshall, he was better than anyone outside Gamble on the roster.

Besides, last years defense was just average. It just got puffed up because the offense was so very, very bad.

[Cyberjag]

It just looked average because it was on the field 75% of the time.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

It just looked average because it was on the field 75% of the time.

They were on the field 3 more minutes a game than league average. Bad, but not some amazing stat. They gave up yards, but made it up by being good in the redzone. A place where a defensive leader and star player like Beason probably makes a huge difference.

[BBQ&Beer]

Easy to be happy when you're successful enough to take the loss should it happen.

Fixed!

(also helps if you have actual balls.):)

[Cyberjag]

They were on the field 3 more minutes a game than league average. Bad, but not some amazing stat. They gave up yards, but made it up by being good in the redzone. A place where a defensive leader and star player like Beason probably makes a huge difference.

So it's all about one guy being on the field? Seriously? Some people might think that coaching has a lot to do with it too.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

So it's all about one guy being on the field? Seriously? Some people might think that coaching has a lot to do with it too.

So, coaching is supposed to make 2 rookies strong enough to anchor a line? Coaching is supposed to make Omar Gaither as good as Beason? Because of injuries we don't have the pieces to be as good as last year when we were average. Thus, we will be bad. You can't just "coach up" a lack of talent at damn near every position.

[Happy Panther]

Let's go over this AGAIN. Rookie Coach. check

Rookie qb who was picked #1 overall and had all kinds of crazy expectations on him. Check

Odd off season with limited time to get the new staff and team together. Check.

Lose the heart and soul of your defense. Check

I mean come on fellas. What did you really think was going to happen this year? This is a house money season. Nobody picked the Panthers to win more than maybe 5 games nationwide so just take a step back and be objective.

The instability of some of ya is scary. Yeah I know it's a message board but good God.

:rant:

Our coach is not a rookie. He has been coaching in the NFL for 12 years. It doesn't take a year of being the HC to learn when to take a timeout or how to teach players to be disciplined.

Our QB is a phenom and a top 5 NFL QB.

All of you that think somehow 1 year is the magic number are going to be pretty disappointed.

6 years of making excuses for a sorry franchise is getting old.

[Happy Panther]

It's not saying who I WANT to win.

It betting who I think will win.

When betting, you have to take emotion out if it.

This is not a concept that this board will ever understand.

[beastson]

Blame J.R.

[Kurb]

i love to see a cyberjag or fix thread during the bye week about where the team is

[Happy Panther]

The boss takes ultimate responsibility where I work.

[KintnerBoy]

Let's go over this AGAIN. Rookie Coach. check

Rookie qb who was picked #1 overall and had all kinds of crazy expectations on him. Check

Odd off season with limited time to get the new staff and team together. Check.

Lose the heart and soul of your defense. Check

I mean come on fellas. What did you really think was going to happen this year? This is a house money season. Nobody picked the Panthers to win more than maybe 5 games nationwide so just take a step back and be objective.

The instability of some of ya is scary. Yeah I know it's a message board but good God.

:rant:

I'm with ya all the way on this, pal. Wanted to say the same thing last night but didn't have the energy to type it all.

None of us had any hope for this season until we started actually being competitive which gave us hope. We have to be realistic and wait for our new coaches to build the team. No reason to start bashing Rivera and wishing we hired Harbaugh. I think we've done wonders with what we have so be patient people. It'll come.

[pstall]

my friends and family have asked and i keep telling them a resounding yes. fiz is the worldest youngest Wal Mart greeter.

i'm honored to be on ignore. now if i can get the irs to do this im gold.

[rico6]

Yeah guys! let's just ignore the fact that we could be 6-0 right now!!

FOOOCHA BABEH FOOOCHA