My First Issue With The Offense

[ProBowler]

Fox and Timmy boy lost last week so the only ready their "record is better" is because they have a bye this week and didn't play...their 1-4, now go sit down

What about Andy Dalton? He won today again....he's a rookie you don't think coaching has anything to do with that? Their coach is smart about how to win. 49'ers and Harbaugh? Really?

You don't see the difference in our defense between this team and a John Fox defense?

Ok.

[footballisasport]

Look Cam's not a very accurate QB. He throws a lot of high balls which is why you see everyone, our own receivers too jump a lot for high balls. He's going to get Smith killed one of these days or at least seriously injured. But that's beyond the point.

The point is coaching staff is very suspect and I'm not sure if they're taking advantage of our players strong points. This is not the right fit offense for this team and certainly not for Cam.

It's good for yards, but not for wins. I don't like Rivera's coaching though I like him as a person. I don't like Chud's play calling even though we're getting good yards.

The stats say it all. Make all the excuses in the world you want but rookie and inexperience is now out the window. Harbaugh just took down the Lions and almost got into a fight at the end of the game with the Lions head coach...he's got that killer instinct. The Bengals are winning with Andy Dalton, flying under the radar while everyone's drooling on us losing with Cam.

And even John Fox, he started The Golden Calf of Bristol today......they won. Got a better record than we do right now. Coaching sucks. All around. No point even mentioning defense and special teams.......

Other coaches with a lot less talent are getting wins out of their teams. We have one of the most impressive rookies ever, and so much talent, and we're 1-5.

Yes coach...What else is wrong with Cam?

BTW, did u watch the game? I saw one receiver not in a Panthers uniform quickly turn around and caught a ball that looked like it velcroed to his glove. that was intended to a Panther receiver. I saw another receiver easily tip one of those, I guess really high balls ur talking about, that Cam threw to his receiver who missed the missed tip ball and landed in the Falcon's palyer's hand behind him. But I guess that's Cam's fault also cause he should have thrown the ball higher. Just not too high so the Panther receiver do not have to jump to catch it. Amazing that the Falcon player was willing to jump to get the tipped ball...

From what I saw, both the interceptions were caught by receivers who were much quicker than the Panthers..neither ball were sailing over anyone's heads. As a matter of fact, Even the one handed catch was nice..too bad it was a Falcon's receiver who remembers how to catch. U have fuging hands for a reason...Use them and spare the spoiled "he aint accurate" excuse. It's getting old and it's also not true.

IMO, it seems Cam is doing to way to much to help this team. While the opposing team QBs take a vacation when they play the Panther's defense.

And once again, the NFLN guys just stated during the highlights that the Panthers aren't going to win much games with their defense playing the way they are..So u can sit and harp about Cam's inaccuracy and use it as an excuse for the team losing, while everyone else see the forest for the trees.

[Proudiddy]

Go look at how many guys on that (Bengals) defense are 1st and 2nd round picks... then look at how many are healthy.

Your logic, or lack thereof is hilarious.

[Qu1million]

Every QB has a bad game or two in the season, this is Cam's he will rebound from a tough loss in ATL, today we were out played and out coached, it's not offense but it's the lack of talent we have in defense

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Fox and Timmy boy lost last week so the only ready their "record is better" is because they have a bye this week and didn't play...their 1-4, now go sit down

What about Andy Dalton? He won today again....he's a rookie you don't think coaching has anything to do with that? Their coach is smart about how to win. 49'ers and Harbaugh? Really?

You don't see the difference in our defense between this team and a John Fox defense?

Ok.

You said Fox started The Golden Calf of Bristol and won and their record is better...i pointed out you were wrong...now you're gonna talk about Dalton who has a vet coach and harbaugh who many wanted here...you tried to makea point and were wrong...now stop acting like a child backed in a corner

[footballisasport]

I'm blaming the coaches for our record, I'm blaming Cam for today's loss. If he doesn't improve his accuracy the picks will never stop. He's not that type of QB though and I don't think he ever will be.

He's more like McNabb than anyone else out there. His biggest strong point is his ability to escape pressure, scramble with his feet to make a good pass or play down field.

But he's not that type of QB where you pass 40 times a game and are spot on with every throw. He makes really bad throws at times, that will cost us many games in the future. With each passing game though it looks to be more of an ability issue than a rookie issue. It's not like this wasn't evident in college. He had the same problem there too.

So what are you going to do? Gotta change that if you want to win, imo.

Or you could just keep doing the same thing and hope he will develop into something he's not and may never be. In the mean time we continue to lose week after week. This is all good for the future? I promise you one thing though, the other 53 players on the roster and the rest fan base aren't very cool with the idea you're supposed to sacrifice season after season with the hopes of developing something 2-3 years down the road....maybe.

Yeah, Cam sounds like many of this year's rookie QB? what's ur point?

Do u see Blaine Gabbert as a Donavan McNabb type. He not only fit the discription but also struggles with his inaccuracy...Oh yes, it's not Blaine's fault. He doesn't have good receivers around him...U really can't help urself can u.

Something tells me if Andrew Luck played like Cam u be the first one to fault the receivers...U are so busted.

[ProBowler]

Yes coach...What else is wrong with Cam?

BTW, did u watch the game? I saw one receiver not in a Panthers uniform quickly turn around and caught a ball that looked like it velcroed to his glove. that was intended to a Panther receiver. I saw another receiver easily tip one of those, I guess really high balls ur talking about, that Cam threw to his receiver who missed the missed tip ball and landed in the Falcon's palyer's hand behind him. But I guess that's Cam's fault also cause he should have thrown the ball higher. Just not too high so the Panther receiver do not have to jump to catch it. Amazing that the Falcon player was willing to jump to get the tipped ball...

From what I saw, both the interceptions were caught by receivers who were much quicker than the Panthers..neither ball were sailing over anyone's heads. As a matter of fact, Even the one handed catch was nice..too bad it was a Falcon's receiver who remembers how to catch. U have fuging hands for a reason...Use them and spare the spoiled "he aint accurate" excuse. It's getting old and it's also not true.

IMO, it seems Cam is doing to way to much to help this team. While the opposing team QBs take a vacation when they play the Panther's defense.

And once again, the NFLN guys just stated during the highlights that the Panthers aren't going to win much games with their defense playing the way they are..So u can sit and harp about Cam's inaccuracy and use it as an excuse for the team losing, while everyone else see the forest for the trees.

Forget the picks for a second. Do you not remember the passes he missed that were not picked and the ones that were made where our receivers keep having to make gymnastic-like body extension and jump like they're about to dunk in order to catch? That's what I'm talking about.

[ProBowler]

Yeah, they do see us all the same. U really can't help urself can u.

Not even sure what you're trying to say there. I'm talking real things and you keep making silly comments. I don't think there's a point in arguing anymore. Take care.

[Tarheels23]

I see TRD has finally made a come back.

[Proudiddy]

this thread went to sh*t on this page.

[footballisasport]

Btw, footballisasport, I don't think I have said one thing about Clausen. I have never liked Clausen and probably never will. And I don't understand how saying the coaching sucks is considered trolling and pointing out the reality other coaches have inherited similar situations or worse, but didn't have a #1 draft pick and are getting better results.

If that's trolling, ok then I guess I'm a troll. If preferring one of our own coaches over another makes me a troll, ok. If liking a different type of philosophy than the one we have makes me a troll ok, fine. I don't have to agree with everything this staff is doing, and I don't care if that makes me a troll. Seems to me people only like to find scapegoats around here, and prefer not to address the elephant in the corner of the room. Good luck with that line of thinking and attitude.

Never said u liked or didn't like clausen..never said u were trolling either.

All I'm saying is u simply sit and blame every drop ball every miss catch on this kid because u want to satisfy ur already preceived view that his kind will never play well at a top level in a QB position by over exaggerating everything he does..U're are so darn tranparent it's not funny anymore. That is all I'm saying.

Please spear me the BS. I watch way to much football to buy what ur selling about Cam being inaccurate. If he had receivers who fight for every ball like Stevie, there wouldn't be much of an issue.

Every great QB has great receivers and pretty good protectors around them.

But some of u expect Cam to ward off being sacked because the o-line is to weak to protect him..Throw every ball accurately so the receivers don't have to work very hard and prevent Ints cause U don't want to give the opposing team anymore points than the weak defensive team is giving them; all while trying to turn every coach's plays into tds. Sounds like Cam practically runs the team.

[ProBowler]

Never said u liked or didn't like clausen..never said u were trolling either.

You:

U said the same ish about Clausen...When will u folks open ur darn eyes and stop looking for the miracle QB..Ur damnd Defense SUCK...Even the folks on NFLN didn't pick this team to beat the Falcons for that reason.

All I'm saying is some of u simply sit and blame every drop ball every miss catch on this kid because u want to satisfy ur already preceived view that his kind will never play well at a top level in a QB position..Ur are so damn tranparent it's not funny anymore. That is all I'm saying.

Please spear me the BS. I watch way to much football to buy what ur selling about Cam being inaccurate. If he had receivers who fight for every ball like Stevie, there wouldn't be much of an issue.

Not even sure that you know who you are arguing with anymore and like I said, I can see where you are going with this. If it helps your cause, I never cared much for black QBs particularly because I have yet to see one be a very accurate passer. But having said that, I think Cam's by far one of the best leaders this team ever had and me saying he's not accurate has little to do with him being black. It's just a fact. It may continue that trend and stereotype but it's his arm that's proving it true, not the other way around.

You sound very paranoid. I personally could care less if you're black, white, hispanic, mexican. It's what you do that defines you not who you are or what you are.

And Cam's not that type of accurate, laser throwing QB because that's what he's shown. He's shown he's very much in the likes of McNabb or how about even Ben if you like that comparison better, though I would argue McNabb was much more dangerous as a scrambler and used his size much more effectively than Ben ever has. Just like Cam. He knows how to use his size, which is what draws the comparison. And he is very athletic. And MOST black QBs are very athletic.

I think many people, myself included hoped that Cam would be the first to mix athletic ability with insanely accurate passing and technical ability and after the first game, it sure looked that way. But lately it's just looking more and more like that's not the case.

Which is why I'm saying it's an issue with the coaches. They are the ones that are putting him in a position to play a perfect game week after week. Not Cam. Play to his strengths. Stop trying to "prove" things.

[Proudiddy]

Just have sex already.

[rico6]

Ok, Probowler. Whose dupe are you?