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Steelers DL Coach Agrees With Pep

Montsta

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Personally, I’m astounded that the Patriots could possibly acquire Peppers for just the 34th pick in the upcoming draft. I’ve never seen anyone more qualified to warrant multiple draft picks including a No. 1.

Mitchell disagrees.

“We have the 32nd pick in the draft,” he says, “and we wouldn’t take him.”

thought this was interesting

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rayzor Grand Master

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one of the few who have said that peppers would benefit from a 3-4. notice didn't say that the steelers would benefit by putting him in there and said that they would sacrifice a 32nd for him. they prefer, like we do, to build through the draft.

mitchell may have a point but he is coming from a 3-4 mind. which is better, coke or pepsi? ford or chevy? rap or metal? capitalism or communism?...it's all about preference. those who prefer the 3-4 will always argue that it is the way to go and those who favor the 4-3 will always argue that the 4-3 is best.

regarding peppers....the article's author alluded to 2007's poor production being a result of peppers getting double teamed. that wasn't the case. he just sucked.

also...peppers was utilized in a good few different ways this year. he had sacks from 4 different positions last year. he wasn't double teamed much (mitchell said he would thrive more because he wouldn't get double teamed as much).

it did say that peppers may just want to be known as an LB instead of a DE. that could be the case. i don't agree, though, that him moving to LB in a 3-4 would make him automatically that much better. he would still have to overcome his motivational and motor issues.

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Ok, to all of those out there that think Fox couldn't get everything out of Pep, I have two words that will shatter any and all arguments that you have and they are "Michael Strahan" why is this important, because Strahan broke the NFL sack record with Fox as the DC for the Giants, if Fox can get Strahan to break the NFL sack record you could say that if anything he's one of the most qualified people out there to get the maximum out of Peppers.

And I agree with Buckner on is if Peppers hasn't reached his potential after being in the NFL as long as he has, he has no one to blame but himself.

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I'm not saying I agree with the man, just that he is football knowledgable. That's all. I too believe Peppers potential or lack there of is his own doing. I think it's a telltale sign that a team that has won multiple championships in the past 5 years, and places a HUGE emphasis on athletic linebackers, does not want him. I know you build for the future, but the future is now in the NFL too. Steelers D with Pep on it would be brutal for a long time (NFL long time= 4+ years). So it says a lot to me that he would pass on Pep without thinking twice, all the while agreeing with him that a 3-4 would make him "bust out".

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Yeah, I thought so too. It makes you wonder how much Pep's stock has fallen because of these antics with he and his agent. I always thought he warranted multiple picks too.

i dont think his stock has fallen at all..i think there are people in are FO that want peppers here and are willing to kill are cap to keep him here..

but as far as reaching his potential you never know..in a 3-4 at his weight and height with his speed.i would not be suprised if he broke the all time sack record if he did not have to cover..

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well this guy is a defensive line coach and i assume he's saying he doesent want peppers for his scheme as a lineman and doesent think he'll fit in as a linebacker.. i think alot of 4-3 teams would love to have peppers at his natural position and the fact that he wants to play another position in a different scheme is limiting his value to 3-4 teams hence the rumor of the 34th pick from new england

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one of the few who have said that peppers would benefit from a 3-4. notice didn't say that the steelers would benefit by putting him in there and said that they would sacrifice a 32nd for him. they prefer, like we do, to build through the draft.

mitchell may have a point but he is coming from a 3-4 mind. which is better, coke or pepsi? ford or chevy? rap or metal? capitalism or communism?...it's all about preference. those who prefer the 3-4 will always argue that it is the way to go and those who favor the 4-3 will always argue that the 4-3 is best.

regarding peppers....the article's author alluded to 2007's poor production being a result of peppers getting double teamed. that wasn't the case. he just sucked.

also...peppers was utilized in a good few different ways this year. he had sacks from 4 different positions last year. he wasn't double teamed much (mitchell said he would thrive more because he wouldn't get double teamed as much).

it did say that peppers may just want to be known as an LB instead of a DE. that could be the case. i don't agree, though, that him moving to LB in a 3-4 would make him automatically that much better. he would still have to overcome his motivational and motor issues.

Coke, Chevy, Metal & Capitolism. Any more questions?

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Peppers is an idea, a freak athlete defensive end. Problem is, while actually on the field in games he doesn't live up to his potential and often times is very Average.

anyone that gives up alot for him, is hoping they can make him live up to his potential.

If he was worth what he wants, he would hold a NFL Defensive MVP award by now

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