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The Reason Drew Brees had so much Success

Matthias

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There was no bump and run coverage with our secondary. The saints receivers had free release all day, and Brees was in perfect rhythm. If the guys just got in the receivers face just once today, Brees would have had to adjust, giving more time for CJ or Hardy to get to him.

I am utterly disgusted Rivera didn't make that adjustment all game, especially on that last drive.:(

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They spoke about this DURING the game, they didn't go man because of the match-up issues they'd face with Graham and Sproles 1v1. Zones were the best option given the match-ups.

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Still, we should have at least knock these receivers timing off a little bit. No way will we beat an elite QB with a zone scheme. (The most we could hope for is him overthrowing a guy and picking it off, like we did with Sherrod) I think we could have handled Sproiles with our fastest linebacker on him etc. We could have made it work.

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Still, we should have at least knock these receivers timing off a little bit. No way will we beat an elite QB with a zone scheme. (The most we could hope for is him overthrowing a guy and picking it off, like we did with Sherrod) I think we could have handled Sproiles with our fastest linebacker on him etc. We could have made it work.

Good luck. Sproles is what Reggie Bush wishes he was.

LB's don't match up, he's too quick, and understands that passing game too well.

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Good luck. Sproles is what Reggie Bush wishes he was.

LB's don't match up, he's too quick, and understands that passing game too well.

Sproles wasn't nearly as effective as I was afraid he would be. We need guys that can wrap up constantly with this guy.

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Sproles wasn't nearly as effective as I was afraid he would be. We need guys that can wrap up constantly with this guy.

He was absolutely effective. We had to have certain personnel on the field when he was in there, limiting us in other areas.

It's like that with any playmaker. You can take most any of them away, but at what expense?

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The DB's fyi were re-routing the receivers in the passing game, take a look at the stats http://www.panthers.com/schedule/game/2011/regular5/ we bottled the receivers up really well conisdering how explosive they are.

To me a lot of the cover issues were against the TE obviously, at 6'6" and being a former basketball player he was a matchu-up nightmare for the S's, and LB's (Godfrey did well, outside of that crazy catch on the deflection). But with two good coverage LB's in Beason and Davis on IR I see how that became IMO one of the determining factors in the loss.

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zone was only option as mentioned by others. Our backfield and pass rush will get better.

Our zone coverage will get better too. Lots of guys in no man's land yesterday looking a bit confused.

his success was because he was not on his back. if he's not on his back he is gonna make a good play. It's not because he is a genius, he just has the reps and the time back there to trust the experience he gained from those reps.

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We could have still bumped in zone coverage if our corners were patrolling the flats. Just get off the man once somebody comes in the flats. However, everybody in this thread is right, you mainly play bump-and-run in man coverage, and we don't have personnel to do so against the Saints.

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zone was only option as mentioned by others. Our backfield and pass rush will get better.

Our zone coverage will get better too. Lots of guys in no man's land yesterday looking a bit confused.

his success was because he was not on his back. if he's not on his back he is gonna make a good play. It's not because he is a genius, he just has the reps and the time back there to trust the experience he gained from those reps.

Look at when we did get pressure on Brees. A couple sacks and a couple bad throws. You get to him and he gets panicky. He is so used to being able to sit back all day that he freaks out if he has no escape valve readily available.

Our guy, on the other hand, throws 60 yard bombs in the face of pressure. :cool:

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