309 and 110

[HoFBound90]

so is 3-13

so showing improvement isn't good enough? Sure 3-13, 4-12 isnt great but if we show imrpovement in the win column and our young talent shows growth than I consider this season a win.

Some people.

[Peppers90 NC]

i like the comparison. the year after they fixed the defense and used that insane offense to win a superbowl.

you know, now that you mention it... I'll Take It!

Smith is ahead of Rice through 4 games by 8 yards but Rice has a 289 day late in the year. Smith should be on track easily through midseason.

	Steve Smith		Jerry Rice	

	Game	Aggregate	Game	Aggregate

1	178	178		87	87

2	156	334		167	254

3	15	349		87	341

4	181	530		181	522

5				71	593

6				43	636

7				21	657

8				108	765

9				111	876

10				161	1037

11				149	1186

12				67	1253

13				32	1285

14				121	1406

15				289	1695

16				153	1848

see game 15, that is why....

[Happy Panther]

so showing improvement isn't good enough? Sure 3-13, 4-12 isnt great but if we show imrpovement in the win column and our young talent shows growth than I consider this season a win.

Some people.

3-13 would be an utter failure.

[jayflip]

We can still go 13-3. But I'll take off my homer glasses and say we'll probably go 12-4 (we'll be resting our starters that last week, and Smitty and Cam will have already broken those other measly records)

[Happy Panther]

I will take it

[panther4life]

Since Smith and Newton aren't leading the stats in their respective areas, they could surpass the old marks and still not hold the record since Brady and Welker are way ahead. So until they are actually leading their categories, this discussion is actually useless.

In addition Welker is younger than Smith. LOL at the irony