Last kickoff

[PhillyB]

Let it go... It's over and done with.

We have our first divisional game if the season coming up, and a chance to put Tge South on notice... And u guys want to argue about 4 seconds last game?

C'mon Maaaan...

whenever someone comes up with a legitimate question you always have to jump in and talk about how ridiculous everyone is and how teh real fanz shouldnt be so stoopid. you also give really horrible reasons for why we shouldn't discuss these things. so what if the game is over? it's a good question and something interesting to debate. do you think we should just nix all post-game threads? why do you do this all the time?

can you stop that?

[HeatCheck]

Should have done the onsides. Clock doesn't start until someone touches the ball, and if the kicking team recovers, they are considered down right away. They do not need to run out of bounds.

Everyone in this thread doesn't realize the rules besides you, it seems. Everyone thought 4 secs was too short of a time to recover, or get out of bounds. The game was over at that point but 4 secs is ample time to recover an onside kick. It just depends on who touched it first.

[Davidson Deac II]

Mare did exactly what he should have done...play the ball behind the front line and give a gunner a chance at scooping the ball up and running it into the end zone. 4 seconds was not enough time to recover the ball, we had to pick it up and run it in for a TD.

That kick was planned exactly how it went down....we needed a lucky bounce and a fast gunner to retrieve the ball in stride, then run it in for a score.

Agreed. Even if 4 seconds was enough time to do an onside kick, we had a better shot at doing it this way than recovering a onside kick and then throwing a hail mary.

[pawsandclaws]

I know my college team used to practice dropping the kickoff in a seam downfield when the other team had its "hands unit" upfront. That was for when a field goal could win it for you though. With 4 seconds on the clock all I can think of was that they were trying the same thing to make a hail mary a little easier or maybe they had a set play that could be executed around the 40 yard line.

[Raleighcat83]

You can't scoop up and insides kick and run it in, I think we were hoping to catch them off guard by playing it behind their front line, then if we rcovered it we could have run more of an actual play to the end zone rather than just a hail mary.

[Dpantherman]

Onside kicks are not time consuming

3 seconds tops.

so what do we do with the 1 second? hail mary?

[Doyle]

No way do you get the clock stopped in 4 seconds. Even a field goal will run the clock off in 4 seconds.

[KSpan]

The idea was to pooch it downfield and catch the Bears off-guard, where we could fall on it in field goal range without starting the clock. Clock doesn't start on a kickoff until the ball is touched.

[panther4life]

If you really want to get nit picky, after Forte broke off the big run, I think munnerlyn should have let him score once instead of tackling him inside the 5. Would have given us more time to attempt the 2 scores.

[JJT]

Since you can't advance an onsides kick, and since there were only 4 seconds left, our only chance was to squib it and hope for a fumble that we could return for a TD.

[RevJ]

I meant to address this earlier.

On the final kickoff with :04 left we lined up for an onsides but then goofed it downfield.

Shouldn't we have done the traditional onsides??

Or was :04 not enough time?

I think it was when the coaching staff finally decided to kick away from Hester.

[Nicbsbll2]

Clock doesn't start until the ball is touched. If the kicking team recovers the ball (if it wasn't touched by the receiving team) then the ball is dead. Once the ball is declared dead, the clock stops.

So, if we kick the onside kick, recover the ball, then we have 4 seconds left on the clock.

It was stupid not to kick the onsides kick.

[La Pantera]

The idea was to pooch it downfield and catch the Bears off-guard, where we could fall on it in field goal range without starting the clock. Clock doesn't start on a kickoff until the ball is touched.

Why try to get it in field goal range? Panthers lost by 5....

[panthers55]

So if we had recovered the ball in a scrum of players it is very likely that they would have not blown the clock immediately unless they knew we had covered it cleanly. Otherwise they would have waited for whoever had it to be tackled and then blown it dead. That could easily take 4 seconds.