Jon Gruden: Cam Newton Induced "Shock and Awe"

[fieryprophet]

"From a talent standpoint, the guy is a physical freak for his position," said Gruden, who won a Super Bowl at Tampa Bay as a head coach. "I knew it would happen for him, but I didn't know it would happen this quickly. But Cam has a certain degree of magic."

Camdalf?

[Jangler]

Gruden should have another sit down with Cam to see the difference in him looking at film. Maybe in the by week.

[Jangler]

Camdalf?

Camerlin?

[MattB]

Gruden gushes over everybody in fairness. He and Jaws are unbearable on MNF.

[rodeo]

When Jon Gruden talks quarterbacks, I listen.

When and how did he get this reputation? TB was a revolving door of pooty QBs when he was coach. He never drafted and developed a single above average quarterback.

His only success came with 40 year old QBs who developed long before Gruden got his hands on them.

[rodeo]

When Jon Gruden talks quarterbacks, I listen.

When and how did he get this reputation? TB was a revolving door of pooty QBs when he was coach. He never drafted and developed a single above average quarterback.

His only success came with 40 year old QBs who developed long before Gruden got his hands on them.

[MattB]

When and how did he get this reputation? TB was a revolving door of pooty QBs when he was coach. He never drafted and developed a single above average quarterback.

His only success came with 40 year old QBs who developed long before Gruden got his hands on them.

Exactly that, he was able to get the best out of very average talent at QB. Gannon, Brad Johnson, Garcia, etc...

[footballisasport]

A lot of Gruden's questions on that show, he may already know the answer to it, and he may know that the player knows the answer to the question to it, and he may know that the answer may not be flattering for that player.

But when he asks the question he is looking more for how the player responds to the tough question than the answer itself. Does he make excuses, deflect blame, get defensive, etc.

plus it is good TV :)

You're right...It's clear he knew Mallett was coach's kid and was quite knowledgeable with the Xs and Os. He knew not to ask any real questions to Blaine cause he would get frazzled and lost quite easily...like who couldn't see that. And he knew to throw an NFL QB verbarge to Cam to continue the already preceived view by those in the media that Cam wasn't NFL ready and not qualified to go off the draft board as high as he was. Yeah it was done to feed the egos and nothing more.

[rodeo]

Exactly that, he was able to get the best out of very average talent at QB. Gannon, Brad Johnson, Garcia, etc...

Then I'll listen to what he has to say about 40 year old QBs. Not rookies, since he was never able to draft and develop a single one.

[edromeo]

Lol I still cant believe he said Pryor is better then Newton.... All credit lost on that one

I think you're mistaken.

The thread title implied that he said that but if you read the article he clearly did not.

and if (as we’re hearing) Jon Gruden is privately expressing a belief that Pryor may be better than Cam Newton

I don't see how/why anyone would take the above quote to mean that Gruden said that Pryor is better then Newton.

Gruden isn't exactly a shy guy with his opinion; if he thought Pryor was better he would have said it.

Also, if you watch Gruden's QB series he clearly had different impression of Pryor as compared to the other QBs, heck even ask Pryor if he would make the switch and play WR.

I think if you're gonna attempt to discredit the man you should find something he's actually said as the reason.

[edromeo]

The fools are the ones who concluded that Cam was not smart enough to learn an NFL offense based on that play call.

+1 I thought it was crazy how people jumped from simple playcalling method to not smart enough.

I recall seeing Sam BradforLandry Jones look to the sideline for a signal all the time.

[tiger7_88]

The thing about the play call "36" was always overblown. That was and is just a simplified way of making a complicated call. The Auburn offense involves complicated motions and numerous WR/TE patterns on almost EVERY play. Condensed into that "36" was an offensive play just as "technical" or "complicated" as just about any other.

All the "36" hoo-hah ever was was just a chance for the haters to get their jaws on another piece of raw meat.

[rayzor]

from fowler's column that came out today...

The unspoken thought behind “36” was this: Maybe Newton was just not smart enough to play NFL quarterback.

“We need to squash that right now,” Gruden said, “and I’m sorry if that’s what anyone took away from the show. That’s not Cam’s fault that he’s in a no-huddle offense. He’s not the offensive coordinator. He’s just the performer. That’s just the communication system they used. It was all in an express, no-huddle system.”

“He called a few signals to see what the defense was playing and then he called a play numbered in a simple way.”

For the Panthers, Newton has not had to wear a wristband to help remind him of the plays. And he has spit out complicated play calls – Gruden gave the example of “flip right, double-X, Jet, 36 counter, naked waggle, X-7, X-quarter” on the ESPN show – without evident problem.

“Cam has a couple of things going for him besides just the physical talent,” Gruden said. “He’s got a very high level of motivation. And he’s got the brains to do this. You combine that intelligence and that passion with his ability and you’ve got something.”

Gruden said he knew there was an anti-Newton segment, but he has never been part of it. He was quoted several times before April’s draft saying Newton was the No.1 player available.

“A lot of people want him to fail,” Gruden said of Newton. “For whatever reason, they just do. I think that’s life these days – it’s easier for some people to be against something than for something.”

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/09/28/2648152/gruden-on-newton-now-shock-and.html#ixzz1ZLuMjQKu

[footballisasport]

The thing about the play call "36" was always overblown. That was and is just a simplified way of making a complicated call. The Auburn offense involves complicated motions and numerous WR/TE patterns on almost EVERY play. Condensed into that "36" was an offensive play just as "technical" or "complicated" as just about any other.

All the "36" hoo-hah ever was was just a chance for the haters to get their jaws on another piece of raw meat.[/QUOTE]

U are quite right...And it also showed that there are many who really don't know are darn thing about football as a whole but pretend to be experts by just repeating what they hear.