You cant pass your way to the Super Bowl Trophy

[Kevin Greene]

In that one post, you totally contradicted your own thread title.

I've proven my point, time to move on. Better luck next time.

OK, glad you feel that way. ;)

The 33 most prolific passing offenses in NFL history did not win the Super Bowl just isn't that catchy of a thread title.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

Wanna bet? :cam:

[JawnyBlaze]

Yea, I think that article is pretty stupid. The only QBs to win the Super Bowl for the last 10 years that weren't elite were Big Ben, Eli, and Brad Johnson. The Steelers and Bucs had all-world elite defenses and the Giants defense was playing like it in the playoffs.

[JawnyBlaze]

The article takes a statistically improbable thing, the SINGLE top QB out of 32 winning the Super Bowl, and makes it sound like because THAT doesn't line up the need for a good QB isn't that important. Teams with top 5 QBs win Super Bowls these days more than teams with top 5 defenses or top 5 RBs or top 5 any other single factor.

[Kevin Greene]

Really the premise of the thread is we need to get our tandem backs running the ball well to win consistently.

we still need to get our tandem running game going in symbiosis to get where we ultimately want to go

We need balance damnit

[rayzor]

last ten years doesn't really matter. rules have changed and the game has changed quite a bit.

we are going to be seeing some things in the next few years that we haven't seen in the past 10 years. imo, the packers this past year kind of set the stage for what we can expect going forward. pass happy league will have pass happy superbowl winners. run game is only there as a support to the passing game.

the pro game is and is going to be looking a lot like the college game. lot's of spread formations. run game takes back seat to the passing game. it's important, but not the vital part that it once was. you don't need to have anything close to a 50/50 balance between the two to be successful. a good running game can help, but you can do it without.

[rayzor]

i will say that once we get the run game back on track (and it's going to happen) we could very well be one of the most dangerous offenses in the league.

[TheWiz]

Theres certainly another way to make a case for running the ball more.

That was just pointless.

[panthernation23]

i think the real question is, at what point did a team with the best rushing stats of the year win the superbowl? never?

[panthers55]

Yeah I don't know what this guy is saying. I mean, you CAN pass to a superbowl, but a superbowl team does a lot more than just have a successful passing offense.

No team can just get to the superbowl on one thing alone. Running itself doesn't lead to championships. Defense alone doesn't lead to championships.

A Superbowl team is well rounded that particular year; good coaching, solid defense, takeaways, special teams, no mistakes, o-line play, rushing attack, passing attack, smart QB, protecting the football, clock management, game planning, LUCK, etc etc...

You have to look at all of these things and at least have a few of them to get a Lombardi. Not rocket science.

That really is the point. You can get in the playoffs with great offense or great defense but to win the Superbowl you have to have great offense and defense at least during the playoffs. So looking at the whole season doesn't reallly make much sense because it is the team who is playing best at playoff time that wins the Superbowl not the one who played the best during the season. Look at our Superbowl run in 2003, we were mediocre in most categories but went on a run in the playoffs. Green Bay did the same thing last year.

So I would think it would be safe to say that a great passing team can get in the playoffs. To win the Superbowl they have to have complete games from several aspects of the game most notably offense and defense.

[rayzor]

or you just have to be able to outscore the other team.

[Montsta]

Going back the last five years, if you look at the teams that can pass well in the playoffs, the success rate is pretty damn good.

2006 - Colts beat the Bears in the SB

Peyton Manning playoff pass yards/game - 258.5

Rex Grossman playoff pass yards/ game - 197.0

2007 - Giants beat the Patriots in the SB

Eli Manning playoff pass yards/game - 213.5

Tom Brady playoff pass yards/ game - 245.7

2008 - Steelers beat the Cardinals in the SB

Kurt Warner playoff pass yards/game - 286.8

Ben Roethlisberger playoff pass yards/ game - 230.7

2009 - Saints beat the Colts in the SB

Drew Brees playoff pass yards/game - 244

Peyton Manning playoff pass yards/ game - 318.7

2010 - Packers beat the Steelers in the SB

Aaron Rodgers playoff pass yards/game - 273.5

Ben Roethlisberger playoff pass yards/ game - 207.3

I consider passing for 4000 yards in a season to mean you are airing it out rather frequently, and that means you are averaging 250 pass yards/game. So if you take a lot of these SB QB's playoff yardages and extrapolate it over the course of what would be a season, they are actually throwing pretty frequently. As you can see, with the exception of the teams with extremely tough defenses (in this case, Bears, Giants, Steelers), you should be able to air it out come playoff time to better your chances of at least getting to the Super Bowl.

So maybe huge passing yards aren't a precursor to getting to the playoffs, your QB better be pretty damn good at moving your team down the field through the air once you get there.

[Vagrant]

The simple answer here is that teams that are ahead don't need to rack up yards through the air in order to beat the opposition even worse. So the teams that are strong on both sides of the ball are able to run the clock at full time when they get a big lead and try to pound the rock for first downs on the ground. Usually, teams that have QB's that rack up TONS of yardage are the teams that are competitive in games late into the 2nd half and need to move the ball through the air. If your team is an elite team, which most Super Bowl winners are, then in the 2nd half you're mostly trying to preserve a lead not build one.

[Montsta]

The simple answer here is that teams that are ahead don't need to rack up yards through the air in order to beat the opposition even worse. So the teams that are strong on both sides of the ball are able to run the clock at full time when they get a big lead and try to pound the rock for first downs on the ground. Usually, teams that have QB's that rack up TONS of yardage are the teams that are competitive in games late into the 2nd half and need to move the ball through the air. If your team is an elite team, which most Super Bowl winners are, then in the 2nd half you're mostly trying to preserve a lead not build one.

But Super Bowls are two really good teams going at it, and it is rare that the game is so lopsided that one team can just use the ol' Johnny Fox method of getting a seven point lead and running out the clock in the 3rd quarter. It typically just doesn't work that way on that stage.