Not kicking a field goal on that last offensive series could have cost us the game.

[Udogg]

If the FG was missed, the ball would be at the 32 instead of the 20 where the ball was after the punt. Not that much difference which is why I think it would've been worth it to try to put the game away instead of punting. If we lost at the end, all these posters calling names and acting like they are better posters for supporting the decision would agree.

Would have been on or about the 40. It's not at the line of scrimage it's where it was kicked from.

[panthers55]

what is a baussneggar and who the fug are you

I'm not criticizing the move, I know Rivera is the coach and I am not for a reason. I'm saying I don't understand it. Given the fact that our defense is notoriously full of holes, it seems like it'd more of a liability to leave the win to the defense than to a very solid kicker in Mare.

It's all moot at this point; as several people have brought up, we won, so it was the right call when you look at it that way. It just seemed like an overly risky call to me. You all can stop pooping your pants now.

At that point, trying to kick a 50 yard field goal when his career long is 53 yards is risky. Especially when the field is extremely wet. The risk was he misses it and they get the ball at the 40 versus making the play and making them go 95 yards. I get where you are coming from as I thought he should have kicked the field goal as well at the time. Especially since they didn't down it and the ball was still placed at the 20 which would have been only a 20 yard change in field position if they had gone for the fg, But since then I can see why it might have been risky. I still think I would have tried the field goal, but that is why I am not coaching I guess.

[Kurb]

I don't think you guys realized how bad the field was.

Planting a foot could have sank Mare down to his knee.

Hell the 2 point conversion was about making them have to kick to win the game. :lol:

[Doc Holiday]

Haters gonna hate

[flpantherfan32137]

I agreed with coaches call. There is a high probability he misses that kick, the snap or the hold is mishandled. Simply put, a lot more could go wrong than right. With only 1 minute left, I agree with leaving it up to the kid to drive 80 yards in his first start in poor field conditions. In addition, except for the breakdown of our D at the end of the 1st half their O was highly ineffective. Against a top QB like Brees or Brady, I would be more in favor of trying to ice it, because 15 extra yard or whatever it would have been if he missed it wouldnt scare them a bit.

[Vagrant]

Anybody that disagrees with the call to punt simply doesn't know football. That is all there is to it.

On a day when we saw roughly 10 fumbles due to the weather, one on special teams by perhaps the most veteran of all veteran punters in the league, you're going to put Jansen, Baker, and Mare in a position where they have three opportunities to screw up? Jansen has to fire a snap low and accurate, Baker has to grab the ball out of the air and plant it in a few inches of water and mud all while getting the ball in the proper position to be kicked, and Mare has to kick a water logged and coated ball 50 YARDS out of a mud puddle when the opposing offense already needs a TD to win the game? Give your head a shake.

I seriously can't believe anybody feels like they should have gone for the FG in that situation. Every NFL coach in the league laughs at you.

[Happy Panther]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3888/index.html

Mare is a little worse than 50% from 50+. Odds on that FG are probably 25%.

Rivera said it was never even considered.

[PhillyB]

i am a fugtard and should be lynched for this thread

[Davidson Deac II]

The announcers were saying that the ball would have been on the 40-yd line, which makes me think that the NFL rule is to spot the ball from where the kick is placed and not the snap (which kind of makes sense... its placed on the ground at that spot).

You are right. The ball is returned to the spot of the kick.

[lightsout]

It wasn't a black-and-white call. Miss it, you give Jacksonville good field position. Make it, 2 score lead. Punt it, longer field regardless with an offense that has to pass with a rookie QB who hasn't looked impressive. When they marched on us, it was due to MJD. They didn't have time to run the ball. Therefore, punting was the right call. Especially if we could have pinned them inside the 10.

[Lumps]

No one is an idiot for thinking maybe we should have kicked a FG. It isn't a clear cut choice guys, just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are idiots. In fact if you weren't a pussy sitting at home you'd know that by that late in the game the field was wet, but not flooded anymore. A lot of time had elapsed, it had seeped in. At least it was not visible like it was earlier from my seat.

That probably made it even more of a tougher decision for Rivera, but saying that 'someone doesn't know football' is stupid, only thing people didn't know was the condition of the field, not fuging football, because the condition of the field is what ultimately made up the decision.

All we know is it was the right decision, we won't know if FG was a good or bad decision, so it isn't 'stupid' to wonder about it, what's stupid is to not consider everything. There is no 'right call' only 'a call' and it was successful, and that doesn't equate to the other call being a failure/unsuccessful.

[chknwing]

this thread needs to end. Every decision made in a football game has the potential to cause a team to lose a game and win a game. You are not a coach nor in a position to make those decisions. You either trust your coaching staff or you dont, In which case you may need to find another team to cheer for. Supporting the panthers means supporting the calls and decisions the staff makes as they do so in the best interest of the team.

[KillerKat]

this thread needs to end. Every decision made in a football game has the potential to cause a team to lose a game and win a game. You are not a coach nor in a position to make those decisions. You either trust your coaching staff or you dont, In which case you may need to find another team to cheer for. Supporting the panthers means supporting the calls and decisions the staff makes as they do so in the best interest of the team.

So 98% of the board are not Panther fans since we wanted Fox out last season and didn't agree with his calls. Got it.

[KillerKat]

No one is an idiot for thinking maybe we should have kicked a FG. It isn't a clear cut choice guys, just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are idiots. In fact if you weren't a pussy sitting at home you'd know that by that late in the game the field was wet, but not flooded anymore. A lot of time had elapsed, it had seeped in. At least it was not visible like it was earlier from my seat.

That probably made it even more of a tougher decision for Rivera, but saying that 'someone doesn't know football' is stupid, only thing people didn't know was the condition of the field, not fuging football, because the condition of the field is what ultimately made up the decision.

All we know is it was the right decision, we won't know if FG was a good or bad decision, so it isn't 'stupid' to wonder about it, what's stupid is to not consider everything. There is no 'right call' only 'a call' and it was successful, and that doesn't equate to the other call being a failure/unsuccessful.

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