Good Read on Young QB's

[footballisasport]

I'd be careful. People said similar things about Cam being all hype and nothing more. It would be better just to wait and see what the kid can do considering how the other rookie QBs this year have done.

If u haven't seen the obvious difference between Cam and Blaine and how they media treated them, u never will. Cam has and was never afraid to step up to the plate, so technically he isn't being hyped. The media has always challenged Cam and he has delivered. Yet, with Blaine it has been nothing but spun PR and double-talk with him. Has anyone seen this kid throw one single ball during the draft outside of the edited piece the NFLN showed from his pro-day?

Question, do u really believe that if Andrew was in this years draft, Blaine would have been pushed as hard by the media? Blaine wasn't even on the radar before the draft. That is strange considering that he didn't gradually shoot up the board. He automatically went to the head of the class out of nowhere as soon as Luck decided to stay in school. Then u saw who he choose as an agent and u realized why he was all of a sudden Mike Mayock's choosen QB.

Say what u want about Cam but whatever hype he has recieved has come after he delivered, not so much before.

[Ricky Spanish]

There's only one difference. Cam proved himself in college with great numbers and people still knocked him. Gabbert had a mediocre College career and everyone made him out to be a super star. He will be Jimmy Clausen 2.0.

he certainly has jimmy's feel for pressure. i hope like hell hardy and johnson get some pressure on him come sunday, he won't be able to handle it well.

[bauss]

yeah first sign of any pressure at all gabbert is fleeing the pocket.

[rayzor]

Shot at John Fox. Big time.

Or Jeff Fischer, Del Rio, Rex Ryan, etc, basically any ball control coach, not specifically Fox.

Well since he's talking about Rivera coming to coach the Panthers...I look at it as a direct shot at the previous regime.

could be either. doesn't matter, though. the rules of the game has changed to make the passing game more prolific. it's going to be more wide open and it's going to resemble more the college game. so what is working in college? the spread offense. the old way of playing the game is antiquated and teams are going to have to start switching their philosophies.

most of the very successful teams have figured it out. you've got to have a wide open offense passing through the air to win. thats the pro style offense now. not ball control offense taking the majority of snaps under center with a full backfield.

"I think it's brilliant,'' Dilfer said. "This is what you do. You don't develop a game manager, like Tampa Bay did to me. You develop a quarterback, you develop a passer. You let him go pass the ball. Let him go fail, and teach him on Mondays. Teaching him on Mondays after failure is so much better than teaching him on Wednesday through Saturday, because the pain of the failure will allow him to take the coaching more, and the affirmation of the success will make him want to do the good stuff even better.

"Now, if you're playing a rookie in a quarterback-driven offense, you're still going to lose in the short term. Ryan, Flacco and Sanchez all won right away, but they weren't in quarterback-driven offenses. The difference with Bradford last year and Newton this year, those are quarterback driven offenses. You've got to sacrifice something. But what these teams are saying is they're willing to sacrifice the opportunity to win consistently this year to develop one of the great players in this league. I think that's what Rivera is doing. He can't say it because it's not politically correct, but that's what they're doing.''

teams that have started rookies in recent years that have been successful found a way to win games and keep their QB from making mistakes. they kept the ball on the ground and limited their role as a passer to more safe throws.

while that did help them find success early in the 'W' category, i'm not so sure that they didn't stunt their growth somewhat by limiting the mistakes they can learn from.

people are going to throw in guys like carr and now clausen, but you have to consider this very real possibility...they weren't as good as advertised to begin with.

it's pretty clear, tho, that the old way of keeping a QB on the bench for a year or two so the can be slowly brought along isn't exactly needed. if there isn't an established vet ahead of them entrenched in the starting role there (like favre was when rodgers came along) there is no real benefit to the player or team, esp. long term, in keeping them off the field. that won't be the case for everyone, but for the majority of people coming along it is.

[rayzor]

he certainly has jimmy's feel for pressure. i hope like hell hardy and johnson get some pressure on him come sunday, he won't be able to handle it well.

yeah first sign of any pressure at all gabbert is fleeing the pocket.

agreed.

i know i just got done saying that QBs can come into the league right away and be successful, but gabbert is one of those guys who i think has to sit and wait. he just never came across as someone composed and that could handle pressure all that well. there were too many ways that gabbert at mizzou looked like clausen as a rookie for me to like that guy at all.

he may or may not be successful down the road, but right out of the gate i just don't see it happening. they'll have to limit his game to safe high % throws and have him get the ball out of his hands quick.

[csx]

If u haven't seen the obvious difference between Cam and Blaine and how they media treated them, u never will. Cam has and was never afraid to step up to the plate, so technically he isn't being hyped. The media has always challenged Cam and he has delivered. Yet, with Blaine it has been nothing but spun PR and double-talk with him. Has anyone seen this kid throw one single ball during the draft outside of the edited piece the NFLN showed from his pro-day?

Question, do u really believe that if Andrew was in this years draft, Blaine would have been pushed as hard by the media? Blaine wasn't even on the radar before the draft. That is strange considering that he didn't gradually shoot up the board. He automatically went to the head of the class out of nowhere as soon as Luck decided to stay in school. Then u saw who he choose as an agent and u realized why he was all of a sudden Mike Mayock's choosen QB.

Say what u want about Cam but whatever hype he has recieved has come after he delivered, not so much before.

Gabbert wasn't hyped much. I don't know where you are getting this stuff from. A few people said they thought he was the top QB, big deal.....it happens every single year.

If you hadn't heard of Gabbert before the draft than you don't pay much attention to college football. He was being regarded as a NFL prospect the previous year in 2009 if you watched any of his games. He was the top QB prospect coming out of highschool. Not everything needs to be spun in to a Newton argument, you know?

[rayzor]

there wasn't a lot of "hype" around yo gabba, but he was generally considered the consensus #1 QB among draftniks. cam was generally considered to be the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft even tho many acknowledged that he would be taken in the first.

imo, there was only 1 QB worth taking in the first round (since andrew luck decided to stay in school) and that was cam. i didn't like any of the rest of them...esp. for round 1.

i have to say i am impressed with dalton, tho. i didn't really see that coming.

[Snake]

there wasn't a lot of "hype" around yo gabba, but he was generally considered the consensus #1 QB among draftniks. cam was generally considered to be the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft even tho many acknowledged that he would be taken in the first.

imo, there was only 1 QB worth taking in the first round (since andrew luck decided to stay in school) and that was cam. i didn't like any of the rest of them...esp. for round 1.

i have to say i am impressed with dalton, tho. i didn't really see that coming.

Best 3 QBs out of this year are Newton,Dalton, and Mallott. Mallott will be injury pone most of his career though. Gabbert did not have the mechanics of Mallott and did have the leadership and talent of Newton. He is accurate though and if you give him time he will hurt you but I can say the same about Clausen. Point being the pressure was too much for Gabbert at the college level much less the NFL level.

[Wyank]

The main thing I was getting at is we don't know how Gabbert will react being a rookie getting his first start. To me he is a big unknown for the game. Instead of judging the man before getting the opportunity to play, I'd rather watch in unfold Sunday and make judgement on his one game performance afterwards.

[rayzor]

there's no fun in that.

[Donald LaFell]

I cant wait for Gabbert to come out and throw 4 picks and 0 TDs. The guy is all hype and nothing more. Dalton and Newton have payed there dues but everyone has hyped Gabbert up so much its not funny.

If Cam and Dalton can do it then why can't Gabbert? Especially against us, it's not like we've been shutting other QBs down.

[SteveSmith89]

@Snake Fist: Locker says Hello!

[Wyank]

there's no fun in that.

You're right. And I'm for all rookie QBs not named Cam to fall flat on their face. This is Cam's rookie year to shine and Panthers to be proud of something for a change.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Well since he's talking about Rivera coming to coach the Panthers...I look at it as a direct shot at the previous regime.

Except it's not. Ball control offense is an offensive philosophy. Not just a Fox thing.

Not everything is the big story some of you Huddlers try to make it out to be.