Peppers and Cutler some thoughts

[Fiz]

would you people be happier with jake if more of the TDs that DeAngelo and Stewart got had been fades to Moose?

[King Taharqa]

So is Matt Ryan a better QB then Cutler, what about Cassel, what about rodgers, what about freaking Seneca wallace? They all had better QB ratings then Cutler and had better Int ratio's???? Btw FWIW Cutler and Jake had the same Int ratio at 2.9

I was being sarcastic. Pointing out that looking at passing stats alone does not quantify a QBs worth.

[SmootsDaddy89]

It's a know effect that the surgery has....geez....

lol I'm not berating you for having an opinion or anything, sorry if it came off like that. I only make attacks on people who start in on me first. But yes, the first year after tommy john surgery for pitchers, their accuracy and arm strength are all screwy and by the second year they're back to normal. But quarterbacks and pitchers have two different throwing motions. Hence my uncertainty.

[Nu Guns]

I must be on crack with the NFL statisticians then, because despite throwing far fewer passes, Jake threw more balls for 40+ last year than Cutler did. Had more average yards per throw too. Granted, when Jake does it credit goes to the receivers while if Cutler does it he gets all the credit. I know how message board logic works.

Prob yards after catch passes...but i do not have time to look

[carpanfan96]

Rank Name Yds YAC YAC% AY/Att

1 Delhomme 3288 1269 39 4.9

2 Ryan 3440 1404 41 4.7

3 Rivers 4009 1840 46 4.5

4 Rodgers 4038 1652 41 4.5

5 Pennington 3653 1546 42 4.4

6 Rosenfels 1431 664 46 4.4

7 Cutler 4526 1881 42 4.3

8 Manning P 4002 1627 41 4.3

9 Manning E 3238 1220 38 4.2

10 Brees 5069 2398 47 4.2

11 Romo 3448 1578 46 4.2

12 Schaub 3043 1470 48 4.1

13 Roethlisberger 3301 1368 41 4.1

14 Warner 4583 2173 47 4.0

15 Hill 2046 895 44 4.0

16 Garrard 3620 1494 41 4.0

17 Garcia 2712 1248 46 3.9

18 Edwards 2699 1266 47 3.8

19 Orlovsky 1616 652 40 3.8

20 Frerotte 2157 1023 47 3.8

21 Jackson 1056 502 48 3.7

22 McNabb 3916 1805 46 3.7

23 Hasselbeck 1216 451 37 3.7

24 O'Sullivan 1678 887 53 3.6

25 Flacco 2971 1433 48 3.6

26 Thigpen 2608 1101 42 3.6

27 Russell 2423 1143 47 3.5

28 Collins 2676 1292 48 3.3

29 Orton 2972 1450 49 3.3

30 Favre 3472 1779 51 3.2

31 Quinn 518 230 44 3.2

32 Wallace 1532 755 49 3.2

33 Griese 1073 488 45 3.2

34 Anderson 1615 724 45 3.1

35 Bulger 2720 1336 49 3.1

36 Campbell 3245 1686 52 3.1

37 Cassel 3693 2116 57 3.1

38 Palmer 731 358 49 2.9

39 Fitzpatrick 1905 848 45 2.8

40 Losman 584 294 50 2.8

[Nu Guns]

nfl.com poll

Who's most to blame for the drama in Denver?

33% Cutler

67% Mcdaniels

[Cyberjag]

Prob yards after catch passes...but i do not have time to look

Give me a break dude. Jake's always thrown a decent long ball, don't you remember the ESPN competitions a few years back when he beat out just about everyone, including Manning? He's got a better arm than anyone gives him credit for, but try telling that to a Panthers fan...

[carpanfan96]

With those stats posted, Delhomme lead the league in Air Yards per Attempt. Meaning his passes were on average deeper then any other QB in the league. He was also dead last on QB's whose yards came from Receiver's YAC

[Cyberjag]

Rank Name Yds YAC YAC% AY/Att

1 Delhomme 3288 1269 39 4.9

7 Cutler 4526 1881 42 4.3

So you're saying that Jake is better at leading his receivers? Cool!

[carpanfan96]

So you're saying that Jake is better at leading his receivers? Cool!

Yep pretty much, Cutler Got a lot more yards or .3 yards more per attempt from YAC then Jake did his. Jake also had a .6 advantage per attempt for passing yards that actually occur in the air.

[Htar]

Jake is garbage and I've seen that horror movie too many times. If we COULD land Cutler, we should.

[Cyberjag]

Yep pretty much, Cutler Got a lot more yards or .3 yards more per attempt from YAC then Jake did his. Jake also had a .6 advantage per attempt for passing yards that actually occur in the air.

You would expect that to be the other way around, given Cutler's supposed arm strength and the thin air in Denver.

Funny, huh?

[Nu Guns]

Could you provide Jake's hang time also please?

[Delhommey]

A QB in a modified Ol School Raiders offense with a star Wr that was a Probowl PR averages a lot of YPC?

Impossible.